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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    While your property taxes pay for their education, someone elses taxes paid for your education, so it is a fair deal huh?
    Sure, my parents with their property taxes. Funny how we learn from the actions of our parents.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    You're talking about someone buying something like that while already on welfare. Not selling something they already own. These two things are not equivalent. You're simply moving the goal post.
    Would you at least agree this issue exists?

    If you include the property of associativity, my argument generalizes to suggest that when a purchase is made is insignificant with respect to their current financial situation. Furthermore, additive inverses (ignoring items may change in value) suggest we can sell to erase unnecessary purchases. I could generalize further, but I doubt many of you follow and agree up to this point.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Would you at least agree this issue exists?

    If you include the properties of associativity, my argument generalizes to suggest that when a purchase is made is insignificant with respect to their current financial situation. Furthermore, additive inverses (ignoring items may change in value) suggest we can sell to erase unnecessary purchases. I could generalize further, but I doubt many of you follow and agree up to this point.
    Of course. There's no doubt there are people abusing the system. Often in ways much more insidious than buying stuff, though.

    I am simply saying the pre-existing ownership of stuff is a poor indicator of someone's current financial position and that the selling of stuff is often not sufficient to deal with their position.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Hmm, I like math. Lets say we give 100,000 lunches at $2.50 a lunch for 336 days, and we give $3 billion to 12 people at a bank one time annually,.......which cost the taxpayer more? How much did each person at the school get compared to each person at the bank?
    We are not comparing spending instances, but analyzing one. The reduction of spending waste on any one thing clearly reduces the total spending waste.
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    You can deny it is true but that doesn't make you right, only wrong. And it is the same subject, getting something for nothing that you are paying for. I am just using an anology that runs true through our entire system.

    "According to a letter sent in June to the Senate Finance Committee, the company used a tax break for the oil industry to write off 70 percent of the rent for Deepwater Horizon — a deduction of more than $225,000 a day since the lease began. "

    So annually, which do you think costs the taxpayer more (I assume it is the money with you.), school lunches or the Deepwater Horizon subsidies?
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    We are not comparing spending instances, but analyzing one. The reduction of spending waste on any one thing clearly reduces the total spending waste.
    So we would have to prioritize which is more wasteful and which is more important. Care to venture a guess as to the overwhelming possibilites towards a conclusion?
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Sure, my parents with their property taxes. Funny how we learn from the actions of our parents.
    Didn't you get those free lunches? I remember way back there each child brought a mat to school, and ate graham crackers and had a carton of milk, then we took a nap. Did you get your free crackers and milk? Or maybe, just maybe, you have a hidden resentful hatred still festering in your subconscious because you didn't get the crackers and milk.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Good grief.

    I've heard this program has started in Illinois and Tennessee also. It's upposed to be country wide in a year or two.

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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    So we would have to prioritize which is more wasteful and which is more important. Care to venture a guess as to the overwhelming possibilites towards a conclusion?
    Since waste is additive, minimizing waste within each application of tax dollars will minimize total waste. It is clearly wise, since time is ticking, to prioritize.
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    Re: All Detroit Schoolkids To Get Free Meals

    When I lived in the US, I got free luch. Everyone knew, since we paid in cash. Oh.. I was so embarrased, NOT! No one cares.

    This is Detroit, as said previously, most people get free lunch. Why would anyone care if you get free lunch? And if it is a problem, a code system would work much better. Maybe they should have a pilot program to educate the politicans in Detroit.

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