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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Actually, if it wasn't for the House we would have had over $4 trillion in deficit reduction and the stock market wouldn't have taken a dive. Thanks, Republicans. Again.

If it were not for the GOP we would also not have had the war with Iraq with all the unnecessary death and debt, as the majority of Democrats voted against it.
 
That would make another great Perry slogan Con "GOP 2012 - Perry "You should be grateful for your below minimum wage job......"

Let me know how you are coming on those California numbers? I am giving you a chance to retract before I post them. An apology would help.
 
If it were not for the GOP we would also not have had the war with Iraq with all the unnecessary death and debt, as the majority of Democrats voted against it.

I had three family members in Iraq and they have a different story. Did you serve?
 
No, I prefer Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers which are non partisan and in context

The Conservative fallback position when confronted with facts:

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Since when is the current Governor of CA in the running for POTUS?

Since when is 5% of the labor force making minimum wage an issue which liberals want to claim? How much are those people receiving in Unemployment compensation from the taxpayers?
 
The Conservative fallback position when confronted with facts:

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LOL, so let me get this straight, Anderson Cooper gives facts but BLS doesn't? Now that is a classic and shows why liberals are in for a huge disappointment in 2012
 
Since when is 5% of the labor force making minimum wage an issue which liberals want to claim? How much are those people receiving in Unemployment compensation from the taxpayers?

How much in food stamps and other social programs are they receiving?
 
I had three family members in Iraq and they have a different story. Did you serve?

Yes, I served my country and my son served 4 tours in the Persian Gulf in the Air Force. My son, and anyone familiar with our total destruction of Iraq's offensive capability in the Persian Gulf War followed by ten years of sanctions knew, Iraq at the time of our attack, was one of the most defenseless countries on the planet.

That is why the majority of Democrats voted against the unnecessary war.
 
Since when is 5% of the labor force making minimum wage an issue which liberals want to claim? How much are those people receiving in Unemployment compensation from the taxpayers?

The things being mentioned are things that can be compared between two candidates running (possibly) for a political position. One is the current POTUS, the other is the governor of TX, neither has anything to do with the direct governing of CA.

And to many people, a large percentage of a population of a state making barely enough money to live off of is a big deal. People can try to claim all they want that all those jobs are held by teens or illegals, but shouldn't those still be pretty even throughout the states? Why wouldn't there be a pretty equal percentage of low wage jobs available, no matter the state?
 
How much in food stamps and other social programs are they receiving?

how much did you pay your employees? Amazing revisionist history, most minimum wage workers are 16-24, others are second wage earners thus the number isn't anywhere near the problem you seem to believe. This just goes to show now really naive you are.
 
how much did you pay your employees? Amazing revisionist history, most minimum wage workers are 16-24, others are second wage earners thus the number isn't anywhere near the problem you seem to believe. This just goes to show now really naive you are.



Yay your back to trying to insult people
 
The things being mentioned are things that can be compared between two candidates running (possibly) for a political position. One is the current POTUS, the other is the governor of TX, neither has anything to do with the direct governing of CA.

And to many people, a large percentage of a population of a state making barely enough money to live off of is a big deal. People can try to claim all they want that all those jobs are held by teens or illegals, but shouldn't those still be pretty even throughout the states? Why wouldn't there be a pretty equal percentage of low wage jobs available, no matter the state?

Disney is comparing TX to California and claiming that Perry is a disaster because 5% of working Texans are being paid minimum wage. That is typical liberal spin and diversion from reality. TX is a lot like California except for the cost of living. TX has a 20% increase in population and a growing labor force with a net job gain, 8.4% unemployment whereas California has a 9% population growth and 12% unemployment. People are moving to TX from California to get away from that bastion of liberalism which is really the issue at the national level. Do liberals have a clue? Apparently not

The cost of living in TX is much lower than California and those believing minimum wage here haven't a clue as to the cost of living of the state. That is nothing more than a strawman to try to destroy Perry. It won't work, Fortune 500 companies don't pay minimum wage nor does the Medical profession which is huge in this state.
 
This is 2011, you obviously missed the last three years. The numbers are as I posted, 1.8 million govt. jobs out of a job force of 11 million

Yes, it is 2011 -- you really are on your toes today. The numbers cover the time period between 2008 and 2011 -- same as Obama's. Perry has created NEGATIVE private sector jobs ... but a lot of gobmint jobs!
 
Yes, it is 2011 -- you really are on your toes today. The numbers cover the time period between 2008 and 2011 -- same as Obama's. Perry has created NEGATIVE private sector jobs ... but a lot of gobmint jobs!

Better tell that to the Bureau of Labor Statistics because BLS disagrees. You shouldn''t have any problem proving your statement if you are right. By the way, in case you didn't know I won't be voting for Obama in 2012. Looks like it will be Romney or Perry, either one beats the alternative although I do feel sorry for those how want the nanny state.
 
Disney is comparing TX to California and claiming that Perry is a disaster because 5% of working Texans are being paid minimum wage. That is typical liberal spin and diversion from reality. TX is a lot like California except for the cost of living. TX has a 20% increase in population and a growing labor force with a net job gain, 8.4% unemployment whereas California has a 9% population growth and 12% unemployment. People are moving to TX from California to get away from that bastion of liberalism which is really the issue at the national level. Do liberals have a clue? Apparently not

The cost of living in TX is much lower than California and those believing minimum wage here haven't a clue as to the cost of living of the state. That is nothing more than a strawman to try to destroy Perry. It won't work, Fortune 500 companies don't pay minimum wage nor does the Medical profession which is huge in this state.

More lies and distortion from you Con. The facts are the facts. Tx has the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobs in the country....not just more than California. More than Idaho, Wyoming, Michigan, Florida, Az, Nevada....even more than Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee.

Couple that with the fact that Perry loves to talk about job growth, but all of that job growth is in GOVERNMENT jobs. Private sector jobs have declined by 5% in the last two years in Texas. So if all of these private sector jobs are coming to Tx from California.......then there must be more than an equal amount leaving Texas for greener pastures as well....which is surprising since Texas also gives the most welfare handouts to corporations than any other state in the union.

Perry's record doesn't look very good when the record is actually examined.
 
Sorry, that was my opinion and I stand by it based upon your posts

Well considering how often you are are out right wrong..........


(switching nominal and real numbers, that was a hoot)
 
Here are the official numbers since 2001 the state has increased Govt. jobs from 1.565 million to 1.77 or 205,000. Total employment went from 9.5 million to 10.6 million or 1.2 million which makes govt. employment about 18% with a 20% increase in population.

Guess I just don't see that decrease in private sector jobs you claim happened. Don't you ever get embarrassed by being wrong so often?

Government employment by month from 2001 to 2011

2001 1565.7 1594.7 1600.0 1601.2 1602.0 1559.7 1494.2 1522.8 1603.1 1624.1 1636.3 1630.8 1586.2
2002 1605.4 1638.0 1645.1 1644.7 1647.4 1599.6 1530.3 1550.8 1632.5 1668.1 1677.9 1671.6 1626.0
2003 1642.8 1677.8 1676.1 1677.4 1677.2 1632.1 1555.4 1570.5 1642.2 1664.1 1673.3 1663.7 1646.1
2004 1640.2 1674.4 1676.1 1676.7 1678.7 1636.7 1568.0 1586.2 1661.9 1684.8 1693.9 1688.5 1655.5
2005 1666.5 1700.7 1703.1 1705.2 1707.0 1660.4 1597.5 1618.4 1690.3 1715.9 1727.8 1715.4 1684.0
2006 1696.4 1728.9 1730.0 1726.5 1727.2 1683.9 1609.0 1634.8 1711.3 1741.2 1750.0 1742.5 1706.8
2007 1716.3 1748.1 1754.5 1753.7 1756.7 1717.4 1646.5 1655.6 1731.5 1771.0 1786.0 1781.6 1734.9
2008 1761.8 1793.7 1801.9 1795.2 1799.2 1763.9 1694.1 1701.5 1773.8 1809.5 1828.6 1823.1 1778.9
2009 1804.1 1832.4 1839.2 1848.3 1847.8 1811.7 1735.4 1731.4 1808.4 1859.5 1872.2 1864.2 1821.2
2010 1836.3 1868.8 1881.2 1885.7 1920.6 1877.4 1781.4 1775.0 1833.0 1884.1 1896.7 1883.6 1860.3
2011 1859.4 1889.4 1890.4 1890.3 1882.2 1846.8 1766.8
Total Jobs by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2001 9541.2 9550.7 9556.8 9548.8 9544.0 9540.3 9519.5 9521.4 9504.5 9468.3 9447.9 9429.6
2002 9421.0 9414.8 9422.3 9420.1 9430.4 9423.4 9409.1 9414.9 9422.9 9410.1 9410.5 9401.9
2003 9395.4 9383.9 9365.9 9367.3 9360.1 9352.9 9345.0 9355.0 9368.7 9375.4 9384.6 9393.9
2004 9420.1 9428.2 9439.1 9459.0 9468.3 9480.6 9505.1 9522.6 9516.9 9566.1 9569.7 9581.4
2005 9605.0 9620.3 9638.9 9679.5 9693.3 9698.8 9764.0 9781.8 9809.3 9825.6 9868.6 9885.2
2006 9925.1 9946.8 9986.6 10000.0 10025.3 10051.1 10059.3 10106.5 10139.8 10152.7 10178.2 10212.2
2007 10230.3 10269.5 10314.1 10337.5 10362.8 10394.3 10418.5 10433.4 10452.7 10485.9 10506.5 10526.3
2008 10561.5 10595.0 10587.7 10612.0 10616.2 10626.7 10639.9 10642.4 10607.4 10617.3 10605.2 10574.5
2009 10524.2 10462.4 10403.5 10343.4 10318.8 10291.8 10255.9 10231.0 10220.6 10214.4 10212.0 10209.0
2010 10234.9 10239.5 10275.0 10302.7 10357.9 10368.6 10350.3 10361.8 10361.6 10384.9 10403.3 10444.7
2011 10471.0 10488.9 10524.2 10554.5 10556.6 10590.5 10619.8
 
More lies and distortion from you Con. The facts are the facts. Tx has the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobs in the country....not just more than California. More than Idaho, Wyoming, Michigan, Florida, Az, Nevada....even more than Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee.

Couple that with the fact that Perry loves to talk about job growth, but all of that job growth is in GOVERNMENT jobs. Private sector jobs have declined by 5% in the last two years in Texas. So if all of these private sector jobs are coming to Tx from California.......then there must be more than an equal amount leaving Texas for greener pastures as well....which is surprising since Texas also gives the most welfare handouts to corporations than any other state in the union.

Perry's record doesn't look very good when the record is actually examined.

Then prove it, the numbers posted compare TX to the Federal minimum wage, California doesn't pay the Federal minimum wage thus isn't counted, try again
 
Since you seem incapable of doing any research......here's some interesting information for you:

Texas and the government are chummier than you'd think - CSMonitor.com


The chart shows that Texas employment wasn’t down much at all in these years, as the state lost only 53,000 jobs. But looming behind that number are large losses in the private sector (down 178,000) and large gains (up 125,000) in government jobs.


Guess people like Conservative LOVE those Big Brother/Big Government politicians
 
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Better tell that to the Bureau of Labor Statistics because BLS disagrees. You shouldn''t have any problem proving your statement if you are right. By the way, in case you didn't know I won't be voting for Obama in 2012. Looks like it will be Romney or Perry, either one beats the alternative although I do feel sorry for those how want the nanny state.

How it works is, I post evidence to support my case, and if you can find it, you post evidence that supports YOUR case. Your turn.

Of course we can also look at this another way. Since January 2009, when Obama was inaugurated, the U.S. unemployment rate as increased just under 2%. Dureing that same time period, Texas' unemployment rate as gone up by exactly 2%.

So tell me again how Perry has done so much better than Obama?
 
Here are the official numbers since 2001 the state has increased Govt. jobs from 1.565 million to 1.77 or 205,000. Total employment went from 9.5 million to 10.6 million or 1.2 million which makes govt. employment about 18% with a 20% increase in population.

Guess I just don't see that decrease in private sector jobs you claim happened. Don't you ever get embarrassed by being wrong so often?

Government employment by month from 2001 to 2011

2001 1565.7 1594.7 1600.0 1601.2 1602.0 1559.7 1494.2 1522.8 1603.1 1624.1 1636.3 1630.8 1586.2
2002 1605.4 1638.0 1645.1 1644.7 1647.4 1599.6 1530.3 1550.8 1632.5 1668.1 1677.9 1671.6 1626.0
2003 1642.8 1677.8 1676.1 1677.4 1677.2 1632.1 1555.4 1570.5 1642.2 1664.1 1673.3 1663.7 1646.1
2004 1640.2 1674.4 1676.1 1676.7 1678.7 1636.7 1568.0 1586.2 1661.9 1684.8 1693.9 1688.5 1655.5
2005 1666.5 1700.7 1703.1 1705.2 1707.0 1660.4 1597.5 1618.4 1690.3 1715.9 1727.8 1715.4 1684.0
2006 1696.4 1728.9 1730.0 1726.5 1727.2 1683.9 1609.0 1634.8 1711.3 1741.2 1750.0 1742.5 1706.8
2007 1716.3 1748.1 1754.5 1753.7 1756.7 1717.4 1646.5 1655.6 1731.5 1771.0 1786.0 1781.6 1734.9
2008 1761.8 1793.7 1801.9 1795.2 1799.2 1763.9 1694.1 1701.5 1773.8 1809.5 1828.6 1823.1 1778.9
2009 1804.1 1832.4 1839.2 1848.3 1847.8 1811.7 1735.4 1731.4 1808.4 1859.5 1872.2 1864.2 1821.2
2010 1836.3 1868.8 1881.2 1885.7 1920.6 1877.4 1781.4 1775.0 1833.0 1884.1 1896.7 1883.6 1860.3
2011 1859.4 1889.4 1890.4 1890.3 1882.2 1846.8 1766.8
Total Jobs by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2001 9541.2 9550.7 9556.8 9548.8 9544.0 9540.3 9519.5 9521.4 9504.5 9468.3 9447.9 9429.6
2002 9421.0 9414.8 9422.3 9420.1 9430.4 9423.4 9409.1 9414.9 9422.9 9410.1 9410.5 9401.9
2003 9395.4 9383.9 9365.9 9367.3 9360.1 9352.9 9345.0 9355.0 9368.7 9375.4 9384.6 9393.9
2004 9420.1 9428.2 9439.1 9459.0 9468.3 9480.6 9505.1 9522.6 9516.9 9566.1 9569.7 9581.4
2005 9605.0 9620.3 9638.9 9679.5 9693.3 9698.8 9764.0 9781.8 9809.3 9825.6 9868.6 9885.2
2006 9925.1 9946.8 9986.6 10000.0 10025.3 10051.1 10059.3 10106.5 10139.8 10152.7 10178.2 10212.2
2007 10230.3 10269.5 10314.1 10337.5 10362.8 10394.3 10418.5 10433.4 10452.7 10485.9 10506.5 10526.3
2008 10561.5 10595.0 10587.7 10612.0 10616.2 10626.7 10639.9 10642.4 10607.4 10617.3 10605.2 10574.5
2009 10524.2 10462.4 10403.5 10343.4 10318.8 10291.8 10255.9 10231.0 10220.6 10214.4 10212.0 10209.0
2010 10234.9 10239.5 10275.0 10302.7 10357.9 10368.6 10350.3 10361.8 10361.6 10384.9 10403.3 10444.7
2011 10471.0 10488.9 10524.2 10554.5 10556.6 10590.5 10619.8
Why is the first set of numbers not seasonally adjusted while the second set is SA??
 
Why is the first set of numbers not seasonally adjusted while the second set is SA??
I've been waiting for a response, but it looks like Elvis has left the building. :lamo
 
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