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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Conservative said:
Just an example of that liberal education brilliance. This coupled with either Romney's or Perry's executive experience doesn't bode well for Obama's re-election and rightly so

Obama: The Flake
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Is it my ears, of does Wallace have some trouble saying the word FLAKE?

If this is the best you got my friend, you fail. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
That's quite factually not true. Outside tax cuts and spending cuts, what else do you have?

BTW, is this another squirrel moment? The issue is the mandate. And yes, it was a republican idea. The sqirrel will be there later, so you can try and address the issue we're discussing before moving to something different.
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Business deregulation, because it worked so well in the financial sector :roll:
 
Conservative said:
Tort reform for one and that led to the addition of 26,000 new doctors. A policy of balancing the budget without raising taxes. The policy of going out and meeting with Businesses all over the state that drew those businesses to the state.
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Wow. All those new doctors, yet the price of health care didn't go down. Plus, how exactly is pulling doctors from other parts of the country to help one state's numbers in terms of doctors, going to work for the entire country? You are still working from the same size pool of doctors. In addition, how does that compare to other states without tort reform? What are the number of new doctors in those states?

Texas Tort Reform: Failure |
Texas Tort Reform and Texas Doctors | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary

Balancing the budget with stimulus money from the federal government and by requiring the local governments within the state to have to defund important public programs such as education and in at least one case, a police force.

If the businesses are all over the state, then they are already in the state. His policy had nothing to do with improving TX economy, but rather financing his own political ambitions.
 
sangha said:
That is a very biased list that fails to take many things into consideration. I didn't see any mention of unemployment, poverty, teenage pregnancy, etc
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It isn't a list about those things you mentioned. The list is specifically about doing business in a state and the leading factors that lead to increasing business interests in a state.
 
roguenuke said:
Wow. All those new doctors, yet the price of health care didn't go down. Plus, how exactly is pulling doctors from other parts of the country to help one state's numbers in terms of doctors, going to work for the entire country? You are still working from the same size pool of doctors. In addition, how does that compare to other states without tort reform? What are the number of new doctors in those states?

Texas Tort Reform: Failure |
Texas Tort Reform and Texas Doctors | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary

Balancing the budget with stimulus money from the federal government and by requiring the local governments within the state to have to defund important public programs such as education and in at least one case, a police force.

If the businesses are all over the state, then they are already in the state. His policy had nothing to do with improving TX economy, but rather financing his own political ambitions.
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Yep, a liberal failure, 26000 new doctors relocating to the state

Let me also remind you, my county had 600,000 spent on illegal's use of the ER in my county alone. Healthcare costs aren't going down until the Federal Govt. gets illegal immigration under control
 
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roguenuke said:
It isn't a list about those things you mentioned. The list is specifically about doing business in a state and the leading factors that lead to increasing business interests in a state.
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Those things affect the cost of doing business, and a states ability to attract skilled workers and improve the quality of life in the state. The factors it included and excluded seem based on whether it made a case for business, and not an objective measure of economic competitiveness.

A sure sign of its bias is that it puts NY at #45 while many of the worlds largest and most important corps disagree
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's quite factually not true. Outside tax cuts and spending cuts, what else do you have?

BTW, is this another squirrel moment? The issue is the mandate. And yes, it was a republican idea. The sqirrel will be there later, so you can try and address the issue we're discussing before moving to something different.
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Freedoms and personal responsibility, not the nanny state mentality of liberals.
 
Conservative said:
Yep, a liberal failure, 26000 new doctors relocating to the state

Let me also remind you, my county had 600,000 spent on illegal's use of the ER in my county alone. Healthcare costs aren't going down until the Federal Govt. gets illegal immigration under control
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Are you sure that those new doctors are unique to TX or even that they came there just due to the tort reform? Do you even know what the increase in doctors per state has been annually per state?

Health care costs could easily go down, both those paid by the people and those paid by the government to help make up for those who can't pay by having an actual NHS, not a national health insurance system.
 
roguenuke said:
Are you sure that those new doctors are unique to TX or even that they came there just due to the tort reform? Do you even know what the increase in doctors per state has been annually per state?

Health care costs could easily go down, both those paid by the people and those paid by the government to help make up for those who can't pay by having an actual NHS, not a national health insurance system.
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Since I live in the state, yes, I know those doctors are unique to TX as is the net job gain which isn't occurring in your home state. By the way, I absolutely love San Diego which quite frankly is better than the rest of the state which it comes to being reasonable.
 
Conservative said:
What he can do is undo the Obama anti business programs and give business the incentive to grow and hire people which he will do just like he did in TX
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What anti-business polices/programs would those be?

Conservative said:
You really don't have a clue how to run a business or the expenses involved in running a business. Businesses right now are making strong profits because their biggest expense, payroll, is at record lows. Businesses are doing more with fewer employees. No business is ever going to expand employment under the Obama policies, too expensive and too much uncertainty. Invest your own money in a business and find out for yourself
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Why would they expand hiring if they are doing more with less now? They are expanding in market share without having to expand in size.

Conservative said:
Regulations and overreach by the EPA, NLRB,
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Which would be? Also, Obamacare doesn't kill jobs, well not in the sense you think it does. If a business is not hiring people right now because of Obamacare its not because it will cost them to much to employ that person. It is because they don't know how much hiring a person now is going to cost them because they don't know if Obamacare will actually be upheld in the courts.

ric27 said:
step he's taken has made it ****ing worse. Entitlements that continued to grow, higher tax rates that r
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Talking points FTL. How has it made it worse? You do know he's lowered taxes right?
 
roguenuke said:
Are you sure that those new doctors are unique to TX or even that they came there just due to the tort reform? Do you even know what the increase in doctors per state has been annually per state?

Health care costs could easily go down, both those paid by the people and those paid by the government to help make up for those who can't pay by having an actual NHS, not a national health insurance system.
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Until you get illegals under control and interject competition, costs aren't going down. Govt. drives up costs as well with regulations. Any idea how long it takes drugs to be approved by the FDA? Free enterprise and competition will always drive down costs.
 
xpiher said:
What anti-business polices/programs would those be?
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NLRB action in South Carolina, Obamacare, and potential for higher business taxes to fund the massive social spending



Why would they expand hiring if they are doing more with less now? They are expanding in market share without having to expand in size.
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The cost of hiring people and payroll are the largest expense a business has and govt. regulations and taxes drive up those costs.

Which would be? Also, Obamacare doesn't kill jobs, well not in the sense you think it does. If a business is not hiring people right now because of Obamacare its not because it will cost them to much to employ that person. It is because they don't know how much hiring a person now is going to cost them because they don't know if Obamacare will actually be upheld in the courts.
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The threat of Obamacare is of concern to small businesses and will drive up costs. Hiring will not take place until the ruling on that law.
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Conservative said:
The threat of Obamacare is of concern to small businesses and will drive up costs. Hiring will not take place until the ruling on that law.
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And as soon as a ruling is made, regardless of how it is made, businesses will know how being in business will cost them. BTW, small businesses are exempt from Obamacare's business mandate.

Conservative said:
Yep, a liberal failure, 26000 new doctors relocating to the state

Let me also remind you, my county had 600,000 spent on illegal's use of the ER in my county alone. Healthcare costs aren't going down until the Federal Govt. gets illegal immigration under control
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So you think its right that Texas limits the amount of overall money a person can sue for if a DR messes up. So if a DR messes up and the medical bills to fix the mistake total to over the cap of 300,000 then well you, the victim, is SOL. Tort-reform is more than limiting punitive damages, its limiting corporate liability even its their fault. It removes the only way to punish the corporation for breaking the law.
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Conservative said:
And as soon as a ruling is made, regardless of how it is made, businesses will know how being in business will cost them. BTW, small businesses are exempt from Obamacare's business mandate.



So you think its right that Texas limits the amount of overall money a person can sue for if a DR messes up. So if a DR messes up and the medical bills to fix the mistake total to over the cap of 300,000 then well you, the victim, is SOL. Tort-reform is more than limiting punitive damages, its limiting corporate liability even its their fault. It removes the only way to punish the corporation for breaking the law.
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Yet businessses keep moving to TX and the labor force continues to grow. amazing, isn't it?
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sangha said:
Those things affect the cost of doing business, and a states ability to attract skilled workers and improve the quality of life in the state. The factors it included and excluded seem based on whether it made a case for business, and not an objective measure of economic competitiveness.

A sure sign of its bias is that it puts NY at #45 while many of the worlds largest and most important corps disagree
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Why do you think teen pregnancy would affect whether a business wants to do business in a state?

Besides that, many of the subcategories do take things like unemployment and poverty into account. I'm pretty sure those things would be factored into the quality of life and economy categories.

Do you have a better rating of states, that include those things you mentioned? This is the one that pops up top of a search for "top states to do business in". Well along with the Chief Executives website, which actually puts TX at the top of the list.

Best/Worst States for Business | ChiefExecutive.net | Chief Executive Magazine

Of course, Forbes also has a list, which has TX in 4th place.

The Best States For Business - Forbes.com
 
Conservative said:
Yet businessses keep moving to TX and the labor force continues to grow. amazing, isn't it?
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In order for the same to happen on a national scale, the US GOV would have to make it cheaper to move entire plants from overseas than it would be to keep them in operation over there. You really need to look up more about tort reform. Its not as wonderful as you think it is.
 
Conservative said:
Since I live in the state, yes, I know those doctors are unique to TX as is the net job gain which isn't occurring in your home state. By the way, I absolutely love San Diego which quite frankly is better than the rest of the state which it comes to being reasonable.
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Really? You haven't shown any information for the other 49 states about how many doctors those states have gained or lost compared to TX over the last decade.

What I have found is that TX ranked 41st in both 2006 and 2007 for number of doctors per 100,000 population, despite those 26000 new doctors in TX. The tort reform bill was enacted in 2003. What kind of improvement is that?

The 2011 Statistical Abstract: State Rankings
Exhibit 5.8: Non-Federal Physicians per 100,000 Civilian Population, by State, 2004 - Kaiser Family Foundation

The numbers of doctors are going up in all states, not just TX. The tort reform had little, if anything, to do with that increase in doctors to TX. In fact, it is quite possible that the tort reform could have led to less qualified doctors to move to TX, since they are the most likely to be worried about medical malpractice suits.
 
Conservative said:
Yet businessses keep moving to TX and the labor force continues to grow. amazing, isn't it?
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Why do you avoid telling the truth about TX economy con? The rate of poverty in Texas is 4x the rate in California. Texas has the highest percentage of minimum wage jobs and below minimum wage jobs in the country. Texas hands out more corporate welfare than any other state in the union and financed it through huge cuts to public education.

If that is the model that Perry wants to taut to run the country.....that is going to be a tough sell to the American people. Good luck with that one.
Face it....Perry is just another GWB.
 
disneydude said:
Why do you avoid telling the truth about TX economy con? The rate of poverty in Texas is 4x the rate in California. Texas has the highest percentage of minimum wage jobs and below minimum wage jobs in the country. Texas hands out more corporate welfare than any other state in the union and financed it through huge cuts to public education.

If that is the model that Perry wants to taut to run the country.....that is going to be a tough sell to the American people. Good luck with that one.
Face it....Perry is just another GWB.
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Yet businesses and people keep moving to TX. How do you explain it?

You voted for Obama without any evidence that he could run the country and we have seen how that is turning out.
 
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