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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Conservative said:
GDP growth affects jobs creation, misery index affects everyone, credit downgrade is understood by most except Obama supporters. Jobs, jobs, jobs, debt, debt, debt.

Perry net job gain, labor force increase, balanced budget, Obama net job loss, declining labor force, and 4 trillion added to the debt. I am sure you like that better
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Yet Texas under perry has failed to keep up with its own population growth. It is behind 25 states in terms of unemployment.So sad for the lone-star.:(
 
Conservative said:
We were going into recession when Reagan took office and coming out of recession when Obama took office.
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No, we were not going into a recession. You never stop lying. It's amazing.

GDP when Reagan took over:

1980q4: 7.6
1981q1: 8.6

That's your idea of going into a recession, is it?

Unemployment rate dropping is your idea of going into a recession, is it?

10-1980: 7.5%
11-1980: 7.5%
12-1980: 7.2%
01-1981: 7.5%
02-1981: 7.4%
03-1981: 7.4%
04-1981: 7.2%

Looks like you don't even know that Paul Volker created the recession to bring down inflation. What a shame because several people here have tried to educate you.
 
donc said:
Yet Texas under perry has failed to keep up with its own population growth. It is behind 25 states in terms of unemployment.So sad for the lone-star.:(
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How's your state doing? TX unemployment is below the national average thus making Obama's numbers look better. TX has a growing labor force making Obama's numbers look better, TX has more employed again making Obama's numbers look better. At least TX ought to get a thank you
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No, we were not going into a recession. You never stop lying. It's amazing.

GDP when Reagan took over:

1980q4: 7.6
1981q1: 8.6

That's your idea of going into a recession, is it?

Unemployment rate dropping is your idea of going into a recession, is it?

10-1980: 7.5%
11-1980: 7.5%
12-1980: 7.2%
01-1981: 7.5%
02-1981: 7.4%
03-1981: 7.4%
04-1981: 7.2%

Looks like you don't even know that Paul Volker created the recession to bring down inflation. What a shame because several people here have tried to educate you.
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Conservative said:
I particularly love Paul, the govt. doesn't spend enough money, Krugman, prize winning economist who has no credibility in my book. Love how liberals ignore the Obama record to try and destroy Perry. Where was this vetting when Obama was a candidate? Let's see, Perry, net job gain, growing labor force, and balanced budget, vs. Obama net job loss, declining labor force, and 4 trillion added to the debt.

When you have no record to run on you let surrogates participate in the politics of personal destruction. 38% JAR doesn't look like it is working.

PICTURED: Perry and Obama At Age 22 - President Obama - Fox Nation
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Paul Krugman did not write this piece; he simply brought up the point about the population growth rate of Texas. However, it is interesting that Texas has more minimum wages workers than any other state in the Union. A low skill/low wage labor force is of no interest to me nor anyone who wishes this country to be competitive in the future.

If you wish to refute the piece, it would be helpful to address the actual author and some (if any) points that were made.
 
Conservative said:
How's your state doing? TX unemployment is below the national average thus making Obama's numbers look better. TX has a growing labor force making Obama's numbers look better, TX has more employed again making Obama's numbers look better. At least TX ought to get a thank you
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And any smart voter will realize that Perry had little to nothing to do with those numbers in TX. What has happened in TX would have likely happened no matter who was in the Governor's seat in TX as long as they did very little to prevent it. So far, the only thing that I can find that Perry did was give government jobs and contracts to his campaign donors, pass a law that capped malpractice suits, and took credit for circumstances in TX that he cannot reasonably reproduce for the entire country.
 
Conservative said:
How's your state doing? TX unemployment is below the national average thus making Obama's numbers look better. TX has a growing labor force making Obama's numbers look better, TX has more employed again making Obama's numbers look better. At least TX ought to get a thank you
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I sure hope perry gets the chance to run against OUR PRESIDENT.With any luck at all he will have bachman as his running mate.Here,s a good video take a peek, preferably after your evening nap.:2wave:
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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This is to be expected when you inherit the worst economic/financial crisis since the 1930's.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
Paul Krugman did not write this piece; he simply brought up the point about the population growth rate of Texas. However, it is interesting that Texas has more minimum wages workers than any other state in the Union. A low skill/low wage labor force is of no interest to me nor anyone who wishes this country to be competitive in the future.

If you wish to refute the piece, it would be helpful to address the actual author and some (if any) points that were made.
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Wonder how much in unemployment insurance those minimum wage earners collect from the taxpayers? I suggest you do some research and you will find that the number is 550,000 out of a labor force of over 12 million so I am sure you can figure out the percentage which is less than 5%. Over half are between the age of 16-24 and many are second wage earners. Guess you must have missed that part of the analysis.

I have no interest in refuting the articles you posted but am concerned about the Obama record. The important issue in this country is jobs, jobs, and jobs. TX creates them and other states don't. TX has a balanced budget without raising taxes and others don't. Let me know when Obama has a net job gain and balances the budget.
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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No response to what I said? Ok, I accept your concession.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
This is to be expected when you inherit the worst economic/financial crisis since the 1930's.
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I lived and worked during the 81-82 recession and you are wrong but we have been over this. Not sure why the loyalty to Obama unless you are one of the leftwing fanatics. If so, you aren't a Libertarian. Obama was an empty suit with no leadership skills when he was elected and the results today show it. Amazing how 2 1/2 years later the numbers are worse than when he took office. No President in modern history has this kind of record two years after the end of a recession. We have seen two years of Obamanomics WITH a Democrat Congress and the results speak for themselves as does the approval rating.
 
donc said:


I sure hope perry gets the chance to run against OUR PRESIDENT.With any luck at all he will have bachman as his running mate.Here,s a good video take a peek, preferably after your evening nap.:2wave:
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Yep again, Perry net jobs gain, balanced budet, Obama net job loss and 4 trillion added to the debt
 
Conservative said:
Wonder how much in unemployment insurance those minimum wage earners collect from the taxpayers? I suggest you do some research and you will find that the number is 550,000 out of a labor force of over 12 million so I am sure you can figure out the percentage which is less than 5%. Over half are between the age of 16-24 and many are second wage earners. Guess you must have missed that part of the analysis.
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So basically, you are making excuses for Texas's demand for low skill/low wage labor.

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I have no interest in refuting the articles you posted but am concerned about the Obama record. The important issue in this country is jobs, jobs, and jobs. TX creates them and other states don't. TX has a balanced budget without raising taxes and others don't. Let me know when Obama has a net job gain and balances the budget.
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Of course you do not. In a thread about Rick Perry, it is critical you continue to rant and rave about the Obama record without the desire or the ability to provide a relevant economic analysis of it.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
So basically, you are making excuses for Texas's demand for low skill/low wage labor.

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Of course you do not. In a thread about Rick Perry, it is critical you continue to rant and rave about the Obama record without the desire or the ability to provide a relevant economic analysis of it.
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Perry, net job gain, growing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a balanced budget. Obama, net job loss, declining labor force, less people employed, and 4 trillion added to the debt. The choice is clear. Perry is getting it right, Obama and liberalism is a failure.
 
Conservative said:
I lived and worked during the 81-82 recession and you are wrong but we have been over this. Not sure why the loyalty to Obama unless you are one of the leftwing fanatics. If so, you aren't a Libertarian. Obama was an empty suit with no leadership skills when he was elected and the results today show it. Amazing how 2 1/2 years later the numbers are worse than when he took office. No President in modern history has this kind of record two years after the end of a recession. We have seen two years of Obamanomics WITH a Democrat Congress and the results speak for themselves as does the approval rating.
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What you lived and worked through is irrelevant as your desire to use anecdotal evidence is really just a fallacy. My article however was not a fallacy or an appeal to authority because the experts in question qualify for both: "The authority is a legitimate expert on the subject
" and "A consensus exists among legitimate experts on the matter under discussion." which is to the highest regards.

Your ill-informed opinion means squat!
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Check out how far back you have to go to find the last time unemployment was this bad in Texas.

Unemployment Rate - Texas
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GASP!!! Oooo.. noes, the glory years of THE GiPPeR??? :shock:

· Sep. 1987:
· 8.3%

· Aug. 1987:
· 8.3%

· Jul. 1987:
· 8.4%

· Jun. 1987:
· 8.5%

· May. 1987:
· 8.7%

· Apr. 1987:
· 8.8%

· Mar. 1987:
· 8.9%

· Feb. 1987:
· 9.0%

· Jan. 1987:
· 9.1%

· Dec. 1986:
· 9.2%

· Nov. 1986:
· 9.3%

· Oct. 1986:
· 9.3%

· Sep. 1986:
· 9.3%

· Aug. 1986:
· 9.2%

· Jul. 1986:
· 9.2%

· Jun. 1986:
· 9.2%

· May. 1986:
· 9.2%

· Apr. 1986:
· 9.1%

· Mar. 1986:
· 9.0%
 
Conservative said:
I lived and worked during the 81-82 recession and you are wrong but we have been over this.
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Riiiight ... because a Conservative sycophant who didn't even know that Paul Volker created the recession to combat inflation thinks he knows better than top economists. :roll:
 
Goldenboy219 said:
What you lived and worked through is irrelevant as your desire to use anecdotal evidence is really just a fallacy. My article however was not a fallacy or an appeal to authority because the experts in question qualify for both: "The authority is a legitimate expert on the subject
" and "A consensus exists among legitimate experts on the matter under discussion." which is to the highest regards.

Your ill-informed opinion means squat!
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As does yours, fact, Perry Net job gain, growing labor force, more people employed, and a balanced budget, Obama net job loss, declining labor force, less jobs, and 4 trillion added to the debt. Obama had total control of the govt with overwhelming numbers of democrats in Congress. His policies failed as the results show.
 
Conservative said:
Perry, net job gain, growing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a balanced budget. Obama, net job loss, declining labor force, less people employed, and 4 trillion added to the debt. The choice is clear. Perry is getting it right, Obama and liberalism is a failure.
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You can repeat yourself until you are blue in the face: the fact remains that Perry seems to be the king of the minimum wage labor force.

How many billions in stimulus money did Texas use to balance the budget?

Through the second quarter of this year, Texas has used $17.4 billion in federal stimulus money — including $8 billion of the one-time dollars to fund state expenses that recur over and over. In fact, Texas used the federal stimulus to balance its last two budgets.
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:lamo
 
Conservative said:
Perry, net job gain, growing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a balanced budget.
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And according to you, it was inspite of Perry, not because of him. You couldn't even find one single bill he signed which generated that growth.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
You can repeat yourself until you are blue in the face: the fact remains that Perry seems to be the king of the minimum wage labor force.

How many billions in stimulus money did Texas use to balance the budget?



:lamo
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You mean taxpayer money that came from Texans just like taxpayers from other states actually coming back to TX? Say it isn't so. Seems that you and so many others forget that Texans sent money to D.C. and as a results why not get some of it back?
 
Catawba said:
Shhh........you'll spoil his surprise!
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How is that 38% JAR and a tie with Perry in the polls looking to you? Keep swooning over Obama. Didn't you faint at one of his rallies in awe of his brilliance
 
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