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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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At this point, I like Romney a lot, but not sure how I will vote in the primaries. Romney has the business background that we need. He would wipe the floor with Obama in a debate on economic issues exposing Obama for what he is. Perry has never lost an election and is a force. He is a fiscal conservative so it will be a tough decision. Social issues will not drive my vote, fiscal issues will.

So it doesn't bother you at all that Romney has flip-flopped more than a five-time Olympic gymnast? That he has no actual convictions, aside from what the polls say he should say?
 
So it doesn't bother you at all that Romney has flip-flopped more than a five-time Olympic gymnast? That he has no actual convictions, aside from what the polls say he should say?

What bothers me are the Obama results and the fact that he is a total incompetent empty suit. He stands for nothing that I support. There is absolutely no reason to give him another four years. I will take the Romney record any day over what Obama has done and all the promises broken.
 
What bothers me are the Obama results and the fact that he is a total incompetent empty suit. He stands for nothing that I support. There is absolutely no reason to give him another four years. I will take the Romney record any day over what Obama has done and all the promises broken.

I didn't ask you about Obama. Why are you dodging the question?
 
So it doesn't bother you at all that Romney has flip-flopped more than a five-time Olympic gymnast? That he has no actual convictions, aside from what the polls say he should say?

And this should surprise you concerning politicians? Listen, I would venture a guess that when you take all the finger pointing out of it, then Barry has not delivered on what his own campaign promises were to his own base, and that would be a reason that many of them, at least today, are voicing discontent with him, and the all coveted Independents are leaving him in droves.

j-mac
 
I didn't ask you about Obama. Why are you dodging the question?

The choice in November will be Obama vs. Romney or Perry. I don't put a lot of faith in your so called research and claims. I will be voting for the Republican candidate as Obama stands for nothing that I support and his record is a disaster
 
At this point, I like Romney a lot, but not sure how I will vote in the primaries. Romney has the business background that we need. He would wipe the floor with Obama in a debate on economic issues exposing Obama for what he is. Perry has never lost an election and is a force. He is a fiscal conservative so it will be a tough decision. Social issues will not drive my vote, fiscal issues will.
Romney has multiple problems:
  • He's a flip-flopper, social conservatives don't trust him.
  • He made much of his wealth killing jobs with Bain Capital.
  • He's a Mormon, and many on the Christian Right think LDS is a cult.
  • Romneycare, despite the State vs. Federal issue.
  • Jobs created in Massachusetts while he was Gov.
  • The dumb ass is seeking to increase the size of his $12 million mansion four-fold. Bad optics.
  • Probably much more.
Oh yeah, one more thing, when his family was young, they put the family dog on the roof of the car when they went on vacation.:lamo
 
CA and NY have similar #'s of immigrants and their school systems rate much higher than TX does. In addition, they have immigrants from a wider variety of nations which places a unique burden on their schools systems, but instead of using it as an excuse, they excel at education.

California and NY excel in a lot of things as well, the entitlement mentality, the highest debt in the nation, the highest taxes in the nation, the most regulations in the nation, and the most businesses exiting the state.
 
Romney has multiple problems:
  • He's a flip-flopper, social conservatives don't trust him.
  • He made much of his wealth killing jobs with Bain Capital.
  • He's a Mormon, and many on the Christian Right think LDS is a cult.
  • Romneycare, despite the State vs. Federal issue.
  • Jobs created in Massachusetts while he was Gov.
  • The dumb ass is seeking to increase the size of his $12 million mansion four-fold. Bad optics.
  • Probably much more.
Oh yeah, one more thing, when his family was young, they put the family dog on the roof of the car when they went on vacation.:lamo

How does that record compare to Obama's

He's a flip flopper and lacks leadership skills
He made his wealth off a book and has zero private sector experience
He spent 20 years in a Radical's church
Obamacare, a national one size fits all job killer
Fewer jobs now than when he took office, a declining labor force, more unemployed
The dumb ass is an arrogant SOB who is vacationing on Marthas Vineyard while the Country is suffering under Obama policies

Then there is the Obama record

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Romney has multiple problems:
  • He's a flip-flopper, social conservatives don't trust him.
  • He made much of his wealth killing jobs with Bain Capital.
  • He's a Mormon, and many on the Christian Right think LDS is a cult.
  • Romneycare, despite the State vs. Federal issue.
  • Jobs created in Massachusetts while he was Gov.
  • The dumb ass is seeking to increase the size of his $12 million mansion four-fold. Bad optics.
  • Probably much more.
Oh yeah, one more thing, when his family was young, they put the family dog on the roof of the car when they went on vacation.:lamo

You are just paving the way for Perry to be the front runner

Continue, my dear fellow
 
The choice in November will be Obama vs. Romney or Perry. I don't put a lot of faith in your so called research and claims. I will be voting for the Republican candidate as Obama stands for nothing that I support and his record is a disaster

So basically your only reason for supporting Romney is that he's not Obama. A ringing endorsement if I've ever heard one.
 
I didn't ask you about Obama. Why are you dodging the question?

It's because the rightwingers know that their candidates are so weak that there's no reason to vote FOR them. The only way to justify their votes is as a vote AGAINST something, in this case Obama
 
It's because the rightwingers know that their candidates are so weak that there's no reason to vote FOR them. The only way to justify their votes is as a vote AGAINST something, in this case Obama

It goes way beyond their candidates, unfortunately. They are the party of NO. They have NO ideas, but they sure don't anyone else to succeed, either.
 
So basically your only reason for supporting Romney is that he's not Obama. A ringing endorsement if I've ever heard one.

Yep, the liberal in me is coming out, the only reason you voted for Obama was your anti Bush vote
 
It's because the rightwingers know that their candidates are so weak that there's no reason to vote FOR them. The only way to justify their votes is as a vote AGAINST something, in this case Obama

Rhetoric aside, way too early to be puffing your chest out....If the election were held today Obama would be lucky to avoid an embarrassing landslide.

j-mac
 
It goes way beyond their candidates, unfortunately. They are the party of NO. They have NO ideas, but they sure don't anyone else to succeed, either.

I agree with that but you'll never get a rightwinger to agree with *that*. However, their own arguments reveal that their clear understanding of how weak their candidates are. They don't even try to defend them. They just put up a token effort, but once the lies are stripped away and real evidence is required, they resort to attacking Obama - a sure sign that they know their candidates are a fail. Basically, their two leading candidates are Perry (who is just bush* with good hair) and Romney (who is just Obama with good hair)
 
You are just paving the way for Perry to be the front runner

Continue, my dear fellow

Only 33% of voters in the state think he should make a bid for the White House compared to 59% opposed to him running. More surprising than that? Perry actually trails Barack Obama 47-45 in a hypothetical match up in the state.
Perry’s trailing Obama certainly has nothing to do with the President being popular. Only 42% of voters in the state like the job he’s doing to 55% who rate him poorly. Texas is a Republican state to begin with him and Obama has a lot more Democrats (14%) who disapprove of him than GOP voters who approve (6%) and beyond that he’s on negative ground with independents at 46/47.
Perry, however, is almost as unpopular. Only 43% of voters approve of him with 52% giving him bad marks. Most striking in Perry’s numbers is a horrible 33/62 standing with independents. He also has 21% of Republicans disapproving of him while only 12% of Democrats cross over to give him good marks. Perry may prove to be a strong Presidential candidate but his numbers in Texas are nothing to write home about.

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Can a guy who’s been governor for 10 and a half years really be regarded so poorly by his constituents? Well, the Texas Tribune polled the locals on the GOP presidential field late last month, before Perrymania had taken off. First place was “don’t know” with 14 percent; Palin was next at 12 percent. Rick Perry? Tenth place at just four percent, two points behind … Donald Trump. Hmmmm. (However, 48 percent said they’d vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that may be, versus just 30 percent who said they’d vote for Obama.)

Texas poll: Obama 47, Perry 45 « Hot Air

 
I gave this one before:

Below Average 31 Texas 2.45

State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science

This one ranks Texas 32nd:

32 Texas TX 215.0 237.0 452.0

Ranking of Elementary Schools in USA

33 here:

33 Texas TX 259.0 277.0 536.0

Ranking of Middle Schools in USA

Notice anything similar between border states in the rankings you posted. TX ranks higher than both California and Arizona. Shows the value of your rankings which isn't relevant at all. I guess people in Iowa don't have a true understanding of what we face in a border state just like you don't seem to have any idea on other issues.
 
Only 33% of voters in the state think he should make a bid for the White House compared to 59% opposed to him running. More surprising than that? Perry actually trails Barack Obama 47-45 in a hypothetical match up in the state.
Perry’s trailing Obama certainly has nothing to do with the President being popular. Only 42% of voters in the state like the job he’s doing to 55% who rate him poorly. Texas is a Republican state to begin with him and Obama has a lot more Democrats (14%) who disapprove of him than GOP voters who approve (6%) and beyond that he’s on negative ground with independents at 46/47.
Perry, however, is almost as unpopular. Only 43% of voters approve of him with 52% giving him bad marks. Most striking in Perry’s numbers is a horrible 33/62 standing with independents. He also has 21% of Republicans disapproving of him while only 12% of Democrats cross over to give him good marks. Perry may prove to be a strong Presidential candidate but his numbers in Texas are nothing to write home about.

<snip>

Can a guy who’s been governor for 10 and a half years really be regarded so poorly by his constituents? Well, the Texas Tribune polled the locals on the GOP presidential field late last month, before Perrymania had taken off. First place was “don’t know” with 14 percent; Palin was next at 12 percent. Rick Perry? Tenth place at just four percent, two points behind … Donald Trump. Hmmmm. (However, 48 percent said they’d vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that may be, versus just 30 percent who said they’d vote for Obama.)

Texas poll: Obama 47, Perry 45 « Hot Air


Hate to break it to you but that was before Perry even announced and was a June 29 poll, irrelevant. Guess you missed the tie today in the Gallup poll. Not surprising. For someone from TX you sure have a distorted view of TX
 
It goes way beyond their candidates, unfortunately. They are the party of NO. They have NO ideas, but they sure don't anyone else to succeed, either.

It does appear to me that you have a typical biased leftwing point of view against anyone that challenges Obama. Why you support this empty suit is beyond me and any one else that is capable of thinking. I suggest you read about Romney who took the state of MA from a deficit to a surplus, turned a financial mess at the Salt Lake Olympics and turned into a profit, not many Olympics have ever been profitable. His business background is exceptional and trumps the empty suit you supported. I suggest you do some research and tell me why anyone would support Obama over Romney
 
Only 33% of voters in the state think he should make a bid for the White House compared to 59% opposed to him running. More surprising than that? Perry actually trails Barack Obama 47-45 in a hypothetical match up in the state.
Perry’s trailing Obama certainly has nothing to do with the President being popular. Only 42% of voters in the state like the job he’s doing to 55% who rate him poorly. Texas is a Republican state to begin with him and Obama has a lot more Democrats (14%) who disapprove of him than GOP voters who approve (6%) and beyond that he’s on negative ground with independents at 46/47.
Perry, however, is almost as unpopular. Only 43% of voters approve of him with 52% giving him bad marks. Most striking in Perry’s numbers is a horrible 33/62 standing with independents. He also has 21% of Republicans disapproving of him while only 12% of Democrats cross over to give him good marks. Perry may prove to be a strong Presidential candidate but his numbers in Texas are nothing to write home about.

<snip>

Can a guy who’s been governor for 10 and a half years really be regarded so poorly by his constituents? Well, the Texas Tribune polled the locals on the GOP presidential field late last month, before Perrymania had taken off. First place was “don’t know” with 14 percent; Palin was next at 12 percent. Rick Perry? Tenth place at just four percent, two points behind … Donald Trump. Hmmmm. (However, 48 percent said they’d vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that may be, versus just 30 percent who said they’d vote for Obama.)

Texas poll: Obama 47, Perry 45 « Hot Air


Perry sounds like the John Edwards of the GOP. Popular with the masses but unpopular in his home state where the people are more familiar with his record
 
Hate to break it to you but that was before Perry even announced and was a June 29 poll, irrelevant. Guess you missed the tie today in the Gallup poll. Not surprising. For someone from TX you sure have a distorted view of TX

Damn I knew I forgot to do something first thing this morning. Read the Gallup polls:slapme:
 
Damn I knew I forgot to do something first thing this morning. Read the Gallup polls:slapme:

yep, as you grow older as a man the second thing that goes is the mind. Polls will be changing a lot over the next 1 1/2 years and that doesn't bode will for Obama who doesn't have an economic plan to change the direction of those numbers.
 
yep, as you grow older as a man the second thing that goes is the mind. Polls will be changing a lot over the next 1 1/2 years and that doesn't bode will for Obama who doesn't have an economic plan to change the direction of those numbers.

Tell me where did you get your crystal ball.



BTW it does seem Perry's popularity is sliding in Texas.
 
Tell me where did you get your crystal ball.



BTW it does seem Perry's popularity is sliding in Texas.

Hmmm, where do you get your crystal ball? Is there any doubt in your mind that if Perry is the candidate that he won't carry TX?
 
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