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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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deltabtry said:
I can't recall the movie but what get me is that you quoted the same quotes that's stuck in my mind, "peace brothuh". LMAO
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Ryan's line makes me laugh. Burt says he can't write, can't paint, can't make up a song, and Ryan mutters, "So you explode things."

I wish I coud find the stunt scene I'm thinking of. Incredible.
 
LuckyDan said:
Ryan's line makes me laugh. Burt says he can't write, can't paint, can't make up a song, and Ryan mutters, "So you explode things."

I wish I coud find the stunt scene I'm thinking of. Incredible.
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The classic quote through out Burt's career is that he says, "well I tell ya". oh he shows those pearly whites;)
 
LuckyDan said:
He was so damn perfect, I'll even bet they were natch.
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I would agree, but did you known that he worked in a circus as a acrobatist(no such woRd or sp).
 
deltabtry said:
I would agree, but did you known that he worked in a circus as a acrobatist(no such woRd or sp).
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Yes, but that doesn't make his stunts as an actor any less significant.

I found the stunt. It's at 4:22 here. This is John Frankenheimer narrating a tribute to Burt. It's worth watching all the way thru.

 
winston53660 said:
Its Conservative so there really is no point to it. If I was in the mood and feeling more energetic yeah I'd bitch slap him again for the umpteenth time.
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How? By more name calling, and ignoring actually answering facts? Yeah, that will make you look smart...:roll:

J-mac
 
j-mac said:
How? By more name calling, and ignoring actually answering facts? Yeah, that will make you look smart...:roll:

J-mac
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What facts has Conservative brought to the table?

I saw him claim Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster in 2008 -- they weren't, CNN was.

I saw him claim Texas employed more people over the last ten years than the rest of the country combined -- they didn't. Texas: 1,224,663; rest of the country combined: 1,466,014.

So what "facts" are you talking about?
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
What facts has Conservative brought to the table?

I saw him claim Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster in 2008 -- they weren't, CNN was.

I saw him claim Texas employed more people than the rest of the country combined -- they didn't. Texas: 1,224,663; rest of the country combined: 1,466,014.

So what "facts" are you talking about?
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Oh, my, the shame of it all, by your numbers Rasmussen was number two and I obviously lied by posting other analysis claiming it was number one, i.e.

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf

Then on the jobs number, you posted data showing TX creating 1.223 million jobs and the rest of the country combined, that would be 49 other states creating 1.466 million or 243 thousand difference.

The shame of it all, a true gotcha moment from our resident liberal here who demonizes anyone that dares challenge him. My sincere apology for "misleading" all here by "lying" about Rasmussen being number one as I didn't use Sheik's source, and for my gross error in claiming that the 1.223 million was more than the 1.466 million created by ALL the other states combined. That gross error is absolutely incredible and shows that Perry doesn't deserve to be President. There is no room in this country for anyone that has job gains of that small magnitude.

We all know how much better off we are today than we were when Obama took office. Higher unemployment, net job losses, fewer people employed, meager economic growth. 4 trillion added to the debt, a higher misery index all add up to the Obama utopia that liberals promised when he was elected. Don't know about you but I wish the election were tomorrow so I could go out and vote for Obama just to admit that even though his resume was accurate and showed what he would do, I was wrong in casting my vote for the alternative.
 
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Conservative said:
That gross error is absolutely incredible and shows that Perry doesn't deserve to be President.
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Who said your inability to be truthful, accurate, or honest has anything to do with Perry's merit to be president? I'm questioning j-mac's ability to distinguish fact from fiction when he says you have laid out facts. I'd like to know what facts you have given, 'cause I'm not seeing what j-mac is seeing.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Who said your inability to be truthful, accurate, or honest has anything to do with Perry's merit to be president? I'm questioning j-mac's ability to distinguish fact from fiction when he says you have laid out facts. I'd like to know what facts you have given, 'cause I'm not seeing what j-mac is seeing.
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You are seeing what you want to see. My source showed Rasmussen as number one which even if number two countered Adam's post that Rasmussen was at or near the bottom of pollsters. Obviously you didn't want to address his post.

Second the jobs creation in TX has been huge compared to the rest of the nation yet you want to focus on the numbers showing that your source indicates that TX didn't create more jobs than the rest of the nation combined by about 243 thousand. Instead of recognizing the successes in TX you always want to demonize anything that refutes your support for the empty suit in the WH.

The job creation in TX is huge compared to the rest of the nation and that is the point. The population growth in TX is huge compared to the rest of the nation. The number at minimum wage is the highest in the nation which would be the case since the labor force in TX is over 12 million and that puts the percentages within the percentages of the nation. The uninsured in TX is irrelevant because of all the programs available to those without insurance because people in TX have a choice and that seems to bother you and other cult followers. The education system in TX isn't the lowest in the nation but again those kind of polls vary depending on who does the polling. I have seen no data that TX ranks 50th in the nation, but regardless that doesn't seem to be a factor in Fortune 500 companies coming to TX.

So, Sheik, carry on demonizing TX while ignoring the positive that is happening in TX, a positive not duplicated in your state or at the national level. Your empty suit doesn't have numbers to be proud of nor numbers that can be defended thus the best you can do is demonize anyone that points that out.
 
Conservative said:
You are seeing what you want to see.
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I am seeing facts; which don't resemble what you post.

Conservative said:
My source showed Rasmussen as number one which even if number two countered Adam's post that Rasmussen was at or near the bottom of pollsters.
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It does not counter what he said since he said they were near the bottom in 2010. You're the one who went back to 2008 and used a discredited report from Fordham University to make the fallacious claim that Rasmussen called the 2008 closer than anyone else.

Conservative said:
Second the jobs creation in TX has been huge compared to the rest of the nation yet you want to focus on the numbers showing that your source indicates that TX didn't create more jobs than the rest of the nation combined by about 243 thousand. Instead of recognizing the successes in TX you always want to demonize anything that refutes your support for the empty suit in the WH.
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Tell me, Conservative, when do you stop lying? I didn't demonize Texas by pointing out your dishonesty.

And when are you going to keep your word? You said you were not going to post to me anymore. What happened to your "divorce agreement?" Did it fall through?

:lamo
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
I am seeing facts; which don't resemble what you post.


It does not counter what he said since he said they were near the bottom in 2010. You're the one who went back to 2008 and used a discredited report from Fordham University to make the fallacious claim that Rasmussen called the 2008 closer than anyone else.


Tell me, Conservative, when do you stop lying? I didn't demonize Texas by pointing out your dishonesty.

And when are you going to keep your word? You said you were not going to post to me anymore. What happened to your "divorce agreement?" Did it fall through?


:lamo
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This is exactly why I decide not to respond to your posts. I will respond when you offer something of value which will probably be few and far between.
 
The bottom line is Obama's followers are terrified of Perry

Perry standing there next to a visual showing unempleyment claims trends over the past 3 ****ing years. Just pointing....Perry does not have to say anything. just point at the graphics

Obama is history
 
ric27 said:
The bottom line is Obama's followers are terrified of Perry

Perry standing there next to a visual showing unempleyment claims trends over the past 3 ****ing years. Just pointing....Perry does not have to say anything. just point at the graphics

Obama is history
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But Perry will have to open his mouth eventually, and then it'll be ok again.

Does the name Nehemiah Scudder mean anything to anybody?

"If This Goes On..."
 
What if...? said:
But Perry will have to open his mouth eventually, and then it'll be ok again.

Does the name Nehemiah Scudder mean anything to anybody?

"If This Goes On..."
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Yes, we have the Rick Perry "succession plan" for Texas to some day succeed from the USA:
Published April 15, 2009

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Perry is running for re-election against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a fellow Republican. His anti-Washington remarks have become more strident the past few weeks as that 2010 race gets going and since Perry rejected $550 million in federal economic stimulus money slated to help Texas' unemployment trust fund.

Perry said the stimulus money would come with strings attached that would leave Texas paying the bill once the federal money ran out.
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Governor Says Texans May Want To Secede From Union But Probably Won't | FoxNews.com

Then Perry flip flopped and took the stimulus money from Washington:
January 24, 2011

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry likes to tell Washington to stop meddling in state affairs. He vocally opposed the Obama administration's 2009 stimulus program to spur the economy and assist cash-strapped states.

Perry also likes to trumpet that his state balanced its budget in 2009, while keeping billions in its rainy day fund.

But he couldn't have done that without a lot of help from ... guess where? Washington.

Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Even budget deficits are bigger in Texas
Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.

"Stimulus was very helpful in getting them through the last few years," said Brian Sigritz, director of state fiscal studies for the National Association of State Budget Officers, said of Texas.

Even as Perry requested the Recovery Act money, he railed against it. On the very same day he asked for the funds, he set up a petition titled "No Government Bailouts."

"Join our fight and add your voice to a growing list of several thousand Americans who are fed up with this irresponsible spending that threatens our future," Perry wrote on his blog on Feb. 18, 2009.
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Texas balanced budget with stimulus money from Washington - Jan. 23, 2011

What a two faced deceitful jerk. No way this idiot makes it to the white house. Not gonna happen, no way, no how.

Romney is a fake and a flip flopper, he won't make it.

The repubs have two choices that make sense, Huntsman and Christie, and one is not in the race right now.
 
finebead said:
The repubs have two choices that make sense, Huntsman and Christie, and one is not in the race right now.
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I'd consider voting for those guys. The rest of the crop is bat **** crazy.

*exception goes Ron Paul while he is crazy I do agree with many of the guys positions esp on the wars.
 
ric27 said:
The bottom line is Obama's followers are terrified of Perry

Perry standing there next to a visual showing unempleyment claims trends over the past 3 ****ing years. Just pointing....Perry does not have to say anything. just point at the graphics

Obama is history
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Personally, as an Obama supporter, I'd much prefer that Perry get the nomination than Romney. I think Perry is too extreme to win the general election.
 
Conservative said:
What people like you don't seem to understand is that TX has taxpayers just like the rest of the country that funds these so called bailouts and TX has one of the largest Federal labor forces in the nation because of the military presence here. Like far too many you ignore that reality.
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The military presence, and its included federal employees, in TX has nothing to do with Perry. They cannot be included in his creating jobs because they were present before he took office and the wars since he took office are the cause for any increased military personnel in the area.

The only thing that can be positively connected to Perry and any job increase involving the military would be his gun control policies pertaining to military and military vets. These are likely to cause a small increase in vets living in TX. But many of the jobs created by this are not likely to be good paying jobs.

Not only that, but another cause for a large increase in jobs in TX is the natural resources in TX and the increased search for those resources in an effort to reduce our dependency on foreign oil, another thing that cannot be attributed to Perry.
 
ric27 said:
The bottom line is Obama's followers are terrified of Perry

Perry standing there next to a visual showing unempleyment claims trends over the past 3 ****ing years. Just pointing....Perry does not have to say anything. just point at the graphics

Obama is history
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You mean this chart of unemployment rates?


U3.jpg


... what's so impressive about it?
 
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