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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Conservative said:
Just like a liberal, post a chart that they don't understand and ignore the charts that do. Employment in TX has grown. Percentage growth of the labor force is irrelevant comparison. TX is creating net jobs and Obama is losing them nationally. People are going to pay their higher taxes due to Obama and move more jobs to states without an income taxes further eroding the state revenues. Guess that is ok to a liberal who cares only about the liberal agenda.
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Looks to me like Conservatism has failed the people -- just look at how red those southern red states are when it comes to poverty, including Texas, which ranks at #6 with the highest poverty levels...

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OpportunityCost said:
Rick Perry And Texas Job Numbers « Political Math

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In all its a decent article and deserves some attention.
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Jobs will move to low tax states. However, look at the price of oil since 2001 and you will see a correlation with job growth in TX also. That is due to dollar weakness and supply/demand issues worldwide, and Rick Perry has NOTHING to do with it. Texas was blessed with rich oil deposits onshore and offshore, and the oil industry located here. Even as TX oil reserves are drawn down, the industry will be headquartered here for a LONG TIME. Nothing to do with Perry.

When doing cause and effect analysis, you have to consider all major factors operating in the space, not just one and conclude that one did it.
 
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finebead said:
Jobs will move to low tax states. However, look at the price of oil since 2001 and you will see a correlation with job growth in TX also. That is due to dollar weakness and supply/demand issues worldwide, and Rick Perry has NOTHING to do with it. Texas was blessed with rich oil deposits onshore and offshore, and the oil industry located here. Even as TX oil reserves are drawn down, the industry will be headquartered here for a LONG TIME. Nothing to do with Perry.

When doing cause and effect analysis, you have to consider all major factors operating in the space, not just one and conclude that one did it.
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Any idea what the potential for oil is offshore of California, off the East Coast, from Shale, from Coal? TX has taken advantage of its resources whereas other states haven't so stop blaming TX and give it credit that is due. A lot of jealousy showing here about the economy of TX and ignorance about their own state.

There is more to TX than oil but that is the only thing liberals seem to know. I have mentioned the medical facilities, NASA is here, Austin is the home of Technology,Dallas has technology and insurance so don't let the facts get in the way of your biases.
 
Conservative said:
Any idea what the potential for oil is offshore of California, off the East Coast, from Shale, from Coal? TX has taken advantage of its resources whereas other states haven't so stop blaming TX and give it credit that is due. A lot of jealousy showing here about the economy of TX and ignorance about their own state.

There is more to TX than oil but that is the only thing liberals seem to know. I have mentioned the medical facilities, NASA is here, Austin is the home of Technology,Dallas has technology and insurance so don't let the facts get in the way of your biases.
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The CEO of TI was recently complaining about the state of education in Texas.
 
winston53660 said:
The CEO of TI was recently complaining about the state of education in Texas.
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Amazing, isn't it that Fortune 500 Companies are moving to TX and bringing their employees with them. All States have problem areas in the education field so it depends on where you live. I will put my area up against any other state in the nation and have found outstanding education districts all over the state. People control the education system and if people get involved the district is successful. Money doesn't make a good or bad school district, people do. Something to think about.
 
Conservative said:
Amazing, isn't it that Fortune 500 Companies are moving to TX and bringing their employees with them. All States have problem areas in the education field so it depends on where you live. I will put my area up against any other state in the nation and have found outstanding education districts all over the state. People control the education system and if people get involved the district is successful. Money doesn't make a good or bad school district, people do. Something to think about.
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Why don't you check out what kind of companies are moving here. Also you might want to take note of where venture capital is flowing.

Money doesn't make a good or bad school district, people do. Something to think about
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Great so Texas is made up of illiterate people:roll:
 
winston53660 said:
Were you trying to make a point or something?
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You asked what kind of companies moved to TX and I gave you a list. Think all those companies started here? Suggest you study the list and then change your tune about the state or move out. You just don't realize what you have here and maybe some time living some place else will help change your mind.
 
Conservative said:
You asked what kind of companies moved to TX and I gave you a list. Think all those companies started here? Suggest you study the list and then change your tune about the state or move out. You just don't realize what you have here and maybe some time living some place else will help change your mind.
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All you did was list F500 Companies here, so what was your point?
 
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Conservative said:
You asked what kind of companies moved to TX and I gave you a list. Think all those companies started here? Suggest you study the list and then change your tune about the state or move out. You just don't realize what you have here and maybe some time living some place else will help change your mind.
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How much taxpayer money did Perry give away to those companies to lure them?
 
AdamT said:
How much taxpayer money did Perry give away to those companies to lure them?
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Ahhh the infamous Enterprise fund of tax payer monies paying back political donations.

BTW That list a lot of those companies have been here for ever like Radio Shack and Dr Pepper.
 
winston53660 said:
All you did was list F500 Companies here, so what was your point?
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Both, white collar, blue collar and that means taxpayers. TX has created more jobs in the last 10 years than all the other states combined and all you can do is look for reasons to bash the state. That is sad but I guess a liberal has nothing else to do as you cannot defend the Obama record.
 
Conservative said:
Both, white collar, blue collar and that means taxpayers.
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If they are minimum wage jobs, which BTW we lead the nation in creating, odds are those people qualify for (drum roll please) MEDICAID, FOOD STAMPS and more!
 
AdamT said:
How much taxpayer money did Perry give away to those companies to lure them?
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Since the state doesn't have an income tax, what do you think he gave away and why do you care. You seem to have a basic lack of understanding that workers pay taxes in this state buying goods and services, buying property, and driving their vehicles. The benefits of business to the state is quite evident but all you can do is seek the negatives.

I believe I asked you a couple questions earlier today that you have yet to answer. How about it?
 
Conservative said:
Since the state doesn't have an income tax, what do you think he gave away and why do you care. You seem to have a basic lack of understanding that workers pay taxes in this state buying goods and services, buying property, and driving their vehicles. The benefits of business to the state is quite evident but all you can do is seek the negatives.

I believe I asked you a couple questions earlier today that you have yet to answer. How about it?
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1. The Enterprise Fund is made up of tax payer dollars.

2.Workers that are not paid enough and or can be let go in a moments notice qualify for various social programs funded by the tax payer.
 
winston53660 said:
If they are minimum wage jobs, which BTW we lead the nation in creating, odds are those people qualify for (drum roll please) MEDICAID, FOOD STAMPS and more!
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With 550,000 minimum wage jobs out of an employment level of over 11 millions, these Fortune 500 companies don't pay minimum wage. Now I am done with this with you as none of this has anything to do with your attempt to demonize Perry. Too bad you didn't vet Obama as much as you have Perry for we wouldn't be in this mess today had you and the millions of others that voted for the empty suit.
 
Conservative said:
When was the last election cycle, Adam? Do you ever really think before you post? Rasmussen was the NUMBER ONE polling agency in the last Presidential election that was Nov. 2008 or did you forget that the last election cycle was 2008? Rasmussen nailed the results thus your statement about Rasmussen's credibility was a lie or to be nice just a mistatement on your part
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Well? Have you done your homework, Conservative?

Seems not.

2008 election results:

Obama: 53%; McCain: 46%

1. CNN/OR: 53%/46% - exactly right
2. ARG: 53%/45% - off by 1
2. Marist: 52%/46% - off by 1
2. Rasmussen: 52%/46% - off by 1
3. Democracy Corps: 51%/44% - off by 4
4. NBC: 51%/43% - off by 5
5. CBS: 51%/42% - off by 6
6. Fox: 50%/43% - off by 6
7. Ipsos/McClatchy: 50%/42% - off by 7
8. Pew: 49%/42% - off by 8

WH2008: General

Are you ever right?
 
winston53660 said:
1. The Enterprise Fund is made up of tax payer dollars.

2.Workers that are not paid enough and or can be let go in a moments notice qualify for various social programs funded by the tax payer.
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So what? The people of Texas invested in their community by attracting business and taxpayers to the state.
 
Conservative said:
With 550,000 minimum wage jobs out of an employment level of over 11 millions, these Fortune 500 companies don't pay minimum wage.
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You are not making any sense here.

Now I am done with this with you as none of this has anything to do with your attempt to demonize Perry. Too bad you didn't vet Obama as much as you have Perry for we wouldn't be in this mess today had you and the millions of others that voted for the empty suit.
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This mess is mostly the responsibility of our previous Governor. And Perry has done all he can to turn Texas into a third world.

Last in education
high uninsured
6th in poverty
 
winston53660 said:
You are not making any sense here.



This mess is mostly the responsibility of our previous Governor. And Perry has done all he can to turn Texas into a third world.

Last in education
high uninsured
6th in poverty
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Please provide your link for your claims along with the data that supports those rankings. I don't find TX last in Education, am not at all concerned about the uninsured as rich people don't need health insurance, and poverty levels can be manipulated depending on the data.
 
Conservative said:
Please provide your link for your claims along with the data that supports those rankings. I don't find TX last in Education, am not at all concerned about the uninsured as rich people don't need health insurance, and poverty levels can be manipulated depending on the data.
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Obviously you don't give a **** about Texas.
 
Conservative said:
Any idea what the potential for oil is offshore of California, off the East Coast, from Shale, from Coal? TX has taken advantage of its resources whereas other states haven't so stop blaming TX and give it credit that is due. A lot of jealousy showing here about the economy of TX and ignorance about their own state.

There is more to TX than oil but that is the only thing liberals seem to know. I have mentioned the medical facilities, NASA is here, Austin is the home of Technology,Dallas has technology and insurance so don't let the facts get in the way of your biases.
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Texas took advantage of its oil LONG before Rick Perry showed up, and IMO he does not deserve any credit for the development of oil in TX. I acknowledge that the economy in TX has diversified since it was put on its ass in the 80's by the fall in oil prices from 35 a barrel to 10 a barrel, but if you add all the revenue dollars from the industries you cite, that is not a drop in the bucket to what oil does for the state. Oil is still the king in TX.

Heck, Perry was partying with successionists not too long ago. Why should we let him be president of a nation he does not respect enough to stay in. Maybe he should spend a little time reviewing the presidency of Abraham Lincoln, our greatest president.
 
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