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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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How long are you going to use that failed line and logic? Did obama inherit the 2011 economic results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

I'm going to keep posting the facts about where Obama started as long as you keep posting the numbers showing the improvement that he's made. You can't tell how far you've come unless you consider where you started.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
 
Republicans have gotten their way at every fiscal negotiation. Your senate majority leader even bragged that they got 98% of what they wanted. Bush tax cuts are still in place allowing all those "job creators" to create jobs. Taxes are the lowest they've been in 50 years allowing that "trickle down" economics that you guys keep talking about.

Where are the jobs?

Why aren't we in a boom?

How can any of the fiscal problems our country has be attributed to Obama when we've had mostly Republican policy running us for the past 11 years?

These are the Obama results, when does this become the Obama economy?

Ever run a business? Why would anyone invest their own money to create jobs with the uncertainty, regulations, and tax possibilities created by this President?

39% of the people in this country seem to get it, why don't you? Republicans don't have a majority leader in the Senate, they have a minority leader. Obama controls 2/3 of the legislative process but as long as he has brainwashed individuals we are going to get distorted efforts to divert from the actual Obama record. Did obama inherit the following?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
I'm going to keep posting the facts about where Obama started as long as you keep posting the numbers showing the improvement that he's made. You can't tell how far you've come unless you consider where you started.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

Obviously the 39% that continue to support Obama buy your rhetoric, unfortunately 54% disagree. I am waiting for you to explain how Obama inherited the 2011 economic results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
These are the Obama results, when does this become the Obama economy?

39% of the people in this country seem to get it

You finally got something right. :lol:
 
Don't forget a couple of unfunded wars.

Why are you talking about unfunded wars when Obama has ended the wars as promised and closed GITMO? Since deficits are yearly wonder how Obama created 4 trillion in debt after keeping his promises?
 
Obviously the 39% that continue to support Obama buy your rhetoric, unfortunately 54% disagree. I am waiting for you to explain how Obama inherited the 2011 economic results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

As you know, the effects of a once-in-three-generation recession don't magically disipate in a year, or two years, or even five years. The aftershocks from the epic Republican eff-up are going to be with us for many years to come -- particularly with Republicans doing everything they can to hinder the recovery.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
 
I'm going to keep posting the facts about where Obama started as long as you keep posting the numbers showing the improvement that he's made. You can't tell how far you've come unless you consider where you started.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

Look, this is a free forum and country, if you want to continue to look foolish so be it. Still waiting for an explanation as to how Obama inherited the 2011 results?
 
As you know, the effects of a once-in-three-generation recession don't magically disipate in a year, or two years, or even five years. The aftershocks from the epic Republican eff-up are going to be with us for many years to come -- particularly with Republicans doing everything they can to hinder the recover.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

Interesting, they disappeared in 2010 but now are back. Noticed that you continue to fall back on what Obama claims he inherited while ignoring what he has generated. How did Obama inherit the 2011 results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Look, this is a free forum and country, if you want to continue to look foolish so be it. Still waiting for an explanation as to how Obama inherited the 2011 results?

Sorry if I've helped you see your own foolishness.

See above for your explanation.
 
Interesting, they disappeared in 2010 but now are back. Noticed that you continue to fall back on what Obama claims he inherited while ignoring what he has generated. How did Obama inherit the 2011 results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

I didn't post what anyone claimed. I posted the facts.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
 
Sorry if I've helped you see your own foolishness.

See above for your explanation.

No, you explained nothing. Noticed how you ignored we are two years after the end of a recession and Obama had pretty good economic results in 2010 in terms of GDP yet has these numbers in 2011. How did Obama inherit the 2011 numbers?
 
I didn't post what anyone claimed. I posted the facts.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

Yet this is 2011, how did Obama inherit the 2011 numbers

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Look, this is a free forum and country, if you want to continue to look foolish so be it. Still waiting for an explanation as to how Obama inherited the 2011 results?

The only one looking foolish here is you by repeating out of context biased partisan GOP talking points.

Like it or not the GOP field, including Perry are piss poor compared to Obama.

While the GOP has been slaming Obama for almost 3 years now, dragging him through the dirt with half truths and mud... the mudslinging against the GOP field has barely started and already we are all seeing the pathetic state the GOP field is in. Despite all the supposed bad things Obama has done or not done, no one in the GOP (as of yet) is beating Obama in the polls... That sir, say volumes about the GOP field.
 
No, you explained nothing. Noticed how you ignored we are two years after the end of a recession and Obama had pretty good economic results in 2010 in terms of GDP yet has these numbers in 2011. How did Obama inherit the 2011 numbers?

Seriously, do you suffer from alzheimers? I don't want to berate you if it's a physical condition.

As we've gone over before, stimulus measures were quite successful in boosting GDP while they were in full effect. Now that the stimulus is winding down -- unsurprisingly -- GDP is coming down. The Republican solution, of course, is to engage in rapid destimulus to further drag down the economy.
 
These are the Obama results, when does this become the Obama economy?

When Democrat fiscal policies are put in place.

Ever run a business? Why would anyone invest their own money to create jobs with the uncertainty, regulations, and tax possibilities created by this President?

Businesses are starting every day. Wall street seems to be doing really well. Businesses aren't worried about "Obama" they're worried about our unstable, extremely partisan, and ineffective government.

39% of the people in this country seem to get it, why don't you? Republicans don't have a majority leader in the Senate, they have a minority leader. Obama controls 2/3 of the legislative process but as long as he has brainwashed individuals we are going to get distorted efforts to divert from the actual Obama record. Did obama inherit the following?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

Nope, those were the result of failed Republican fiscal policies.

Anemic growth = due to nobody having a job

24+ Million unemployed = Bush tax cuts still in place, wasn't that supposed to create jobs? Where are the jobs?

4 trillion added to the debt = As opposed to the 6 trillion Bush Jr. Added? At least this one kept us from economic collapse.

Downgrade of US credit rating = Dems had a comprehensive plan, we even but medicaid and SS on the table. GOP only wanted the bare minimum. GOP got 98% of what they wanted. I guess that 2% is what caused the downgrade right? :roll:

Misery Index = Ineffective government as a whole. 14% congress approval rating.
 
Still waiting for the Christie/Jindal ticket :D
 
The only one looking foolish here is you by repeating out of context biased partisan GOP talking points.

Like it or not the GOP field, including Perry are piss poor compared to Obama.

While the GOP has been slaming Obama for almost 3 years now, dragging him through the dirt with half truths and mud... the mudslinging against the GOP field has barely started and already we are all seeing the pathetic state the GOP field is in. Despite all the supposed bad things Obama has done or not done, no one in the GOP (as of yet) is beating Obama in the polls... That sir, say volumes about the GOP field.

What is out of context in the numbers I posted? They are verifiable but then no Obama supporter wants to even try to refute them. Why is that? Looks to me like 39% approval rating for Obama says it all. Do you really think that poll numbers for potential candidates vs. Obama trump his results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
When Democrat fiscal policies are put in place.



Businesses are starting every day. Wall street seems to be doing really well. Businesses aren't worried about "Obama" they're worried about our unstable, extremely partisan, and ineffective government.



Nope, those were the result of failed Republican fiscal policies.

Anemic growth = due to nobody having a job

24+ Million unemployed = Bush tax cuts still in place, wasn't that supposed to create jobs? Where are the jobs?

4 trillion added to the debt = As opposed to the 6 trillion Bush Jr. Added? At least this one kept us from economic collapse.

Downgrade of US credit rating = Dems had a comprehensive plan, we even but medicaid and SS on the table. GOP only wanted the bare minimum. GOP got 98% of what they wanted. I guess that 2% is what caused the downgrade right? :roll:

Misery Index = Ineffective government as a whole. 14% congress approval rating.

Bush tax cuts were in 2001-2003, did you ever not get a raise for 8-10 years? Incredible that Obama had a blank check and generated these numbers. How did Obama inherit the 2011 numbers?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
When Democrat fiscal policies are put in place.



Businesses are starting every day. Wall street seems to be doing really well. Businesses aren't worried about "Obama" they're worried about our unstable, extremely partisan, and ineffective government.



Nope, those were the result of failed Republican fiscal policies.

Anemic growth = due to nobody having a job

24+ Million unemployed = Bush tax cuts still in place, wasn't that supposed to create jobs? Where are the jobs?

4 trillion added to the debt = As opposed to the 6 trillion Bush Jr. Added? At least this one kept us from economic collapse.

Downgrade of US credit rating = Dems had a comprehensive plan, we even but medicaid and SS on the table. GOP only wanted the bare minimum. GOP got 98% of what they wanted. I guess that 2% is what caused the downgrade right? :roll:

Misery Index = Ineffective government as a whole. 14% congress approval rating.

I wonder what your tone would be today if a Republican, 2 1/2 years after taking office, having total control of Congress, and a blank check generated the 2011 numbers we have today?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Bush tax cuts were in 2001-2003, did you ever not get a raise for 8-10 years? Incredible that Obama had a blank check and generated these numbers. How did Obama inherit the 2011 numbers?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

You're obviously not interested in discussing what you say you are. You keep asking people to address the numbers you posted, I do and you glaze over them and then ask people to address them again. If you're going to hand wave away any explanation without consideration why are we continuing to discuss anything with you?
 
You're obviously not interested in discussing what you say you are. You keep asking people to address the numbers you posted, I do and you glaze over them and then ask people to address them again. If you're going to hand wave away any explanation without consideration why are we continuing to discuss anything with you?

It has been stated that the numbers posted for 2011 are out of context and you have yet to prove that. The numbers are what they are as are the current approval ratings for Obama. You believe tax cuts from 2001-2003 should be having an affect now and they are. If you are working and paying taxes you are indeed benefiting from lower taxes. Those lower taxes however are not offset at the business level by regulations, Obama initiatives, and potential for higher taxes. Businesses cannot print money like the govt. and are not going to hire people with the uncertainty created by this Administration thus the numbers we have today.

You are parroting DNC talking points. Wonder what your tune would be if these were a GOP President's number 2 1/2 years after taking office. Wonder why liberals want to judge Bush on one year, 2008 but not Obama's results 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?
 
Of course he's up. Right wingers love slanderous attack dogs.
 
Of course he's up. Right wingers love slanderous attack dogs.

Right, unlike the leftwing slanderous attack dogs which obviously are only exercising their freedom of speech
 
It has been stated that the numbers posted for 2011 are out of context and you have yet to prove that. The numbers are what they are as are the current approval ratings for Obama. You believe tax cuts from 2001-2003 should be having an affect now and they are. If you are working and paying taxes you are indeed benefiting from lower taxes. Those lower taxes however are not offset at the business level by regulations, Obama initiatives, and potential for higher taxes. Businesses cannot print money like the govt. and are not going to hire people with the uncertainty created by this Administration thus the numbers we have today.

You are parroting DNC talking points. Wonder what your tune would be if these were a GOP President's number 2 1/2 years after taking office. Wonder why liberals want to judge Bush on one year, 2008 but not Obama's results 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?

Businesses are most concerned with the undertainty involved in debt ceiling machinations. They are somewhat concerned that Republicans may blow up the economy if they aren't allowed to stay up half an hour later to watch more TV. Now, if uncertainty is such a problem, btw, why didn't Bush make his tax cuts permanent? Why did he devise them so they would periodically expire? Want to know the answer? He did it that way because otherwise, the long term projections showed that they would lead to massive deficit spending.
 
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