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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    From the link above:

    The Texas budget deficit is nearly the size of California's.
    There is no budget deficit in TX, violates the State Constitution.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    All pure speculation and opinion on your part. Guess we need more union membership in the education field in TX? Did you see the Nov. 2010 election results? Factual numbers? LOL, you mean like these

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    You sure do need to invest more in education. If you did you might learn that where we are is meaningless unless you consider where we started.

    And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    When you have a blank check, total control of the Congress in overwhelming numbers it shouldn't take that long. Instead of stimulating the economy, Obama spent a trillion dollars bailing out union contracts and "saving" state jobs in union states.

    You want to blame Bush for the housing bubble yet ignore it was Clinton that signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall. You seem to want to ignore what Democrats wanted including Frank and Dodd, along with ACORN, Franklin Raines, Jaimie Gorelick when it came to housing. Instead you want to blame Bush and Republicans instead of sharing the blame with Democrats. It really is amazing what a short selective memory some have and how the crisis is only the responsibility of Bush.

    I find it interesting that you continue to buy the media spin on the economy which came out of recession in June 2009, 5 months after Obama took office. Amazing how liberals call this the worst recession since the Great Depression forgetting, conveniently, that 1981-82 interest rates were 17.5+%, misery index was over 20, inflation was out of control, and unemployment reached 10.8%. There was a net job loss the first two years of that recession and yet Reagan ended up having a net job gain of 17 million jobs, doubling of GDP, doubling of govt. revenue, all because of the right stimulus, tax cuts to the American taxpayer.

    So the question is who is responsible for growing the private sector economy, the govt. or the people? Answer is pretty simple, Obama isn't the lesser of the two, he is the worst of the two and his economic policy shows it. Rick Perry will be a better alternative than Obama. Never in modern history have we had as bad of economic results two years after the end of a recession like we have now with Obama. This is 2 1/2 years after taking office so how can anyone look at the results and claim Obama is the lesser of two evils? Only those not paying attention and buying the media spin can do that and you appear to be in that group.

    I would suggest stop reading the media and get some facts, BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. provide actual data and that is why I continue to post the Obama results for that is where the data comes form. How can anyone deny actual data? Liberals do it by diverting and then resorting to the politics of personal destruction.
    I put it on repubs because it was stated Bush policy to stimulate housing for minorities, who were targeted and inordinately impacted by the subprime lending of the unscrupulous mortgage companies:
    President George W. Bush Speaks to HUD Employees
    on National Homeownership Month

    Washington, DC
    Tuesday, June 18, 2002
    THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you all very much for that kind welcome. I'm here for a couple of reasons. First, I want to thank you all for your service to the greatest nation on the face of the Earth. (Applause.) I'm here to celebrate National Homeownership Month, because I believe owning a home is an essential part of economic security. And I'm concerned about the security of America. (Applause.)

    HUD is an "important agency," President Bush said. He thanked HUD employees and praised the Secretary and Deputy. I had the pleasure on June the 12th of speaking to the last President who visited HUD. I wish number 41 a happy birthday. (Applause.) And I'm glad you've invited me here today, I really am. I first am really proud of Mel Martinez and Alphonso Jackson. I've known Mel for a while, I've known Alphonso for a long time. There was no question in my mind that these two fine Americans would do a great job in leading this important agency. (Applause.)

    <snip>
    Let me first talk about how to make sure America is secure from a group of killers, people who hate -- you know what they hate? They hate the idea that somebody can go buy a home. They hate freedom; that's what they hate. They hate the fact that we worship freely. They don't like the thought of Christian, Jew and Muslim living side by side in peace. They don't like that at all. And therefore, they -- since they resent our freedoms, they feel like they should take out their resentment by destroying innocent lives. And this country will do everything we can possibly do to protect America. (Applause.)

    <snip>

    We also have got to understand, in this land of plenty, there are pockets of hopelessness and despair. You know, I mentioned the word American Dream in Atlanta. I also recognize that some people aren't sure that dream extends to them. Some people don't even know what the dream means. And our job -- our jobs, our collective jobs, is to make sure that notion of the American Dream extends into every single neighborhood around this country. (Applause.)

    <snip>
    But I believe owning something is a part of the American Dream, as well. I believe when somebody owns their own home, they're realizing the American Dream. They can say it's my home, it's nobody else's home. (Applause.) And we saw that yesterday in Atlanta, when we went to the new homes of the new homeowners. And I saw with pride firsthand, the man say, welcome to my home. He didn't say, welcome to government's home; he didn't say, welcome to my neighbor's home; he said, welcome to my home. I own the home, and you're welcome to come in the home, and I appreciate it. (Applause.) He was a proud man. He was proud that he owns the property. And I was proud for him. And I want that pride to extend all throughout our country.

    One of the things that we've got to do is to address problems straight on and deal with them in a way that helps us meet goals. And so I want to talk about a couple of goals and -- one goal and a problem.

    The goal is, everybody who wants to own a home has got a shot at doing so. The problem is we have what we call a homeownership gap in America. Three-quarters of Anglos own their homes, and yet less than 50 percent of African Americans and Hispanics own homes. That ownership gap signals that something might be wrong in the land of plenty. And we need to do something about it.

    We are here in Washington, D.C. to address problems. So I've set this goal for the country. We want 5.5 million more homeowners by 2010 -- million more minority homeowners by 2010. (Applause.) Five-and-a-half million families by 2010 will own a home. That is our goal. It is a realistic goal. But it's going to mean we're going to have to work hard to achieve the goal, all of us. And by all of us, I mean not only the federal government, but the private sector, as well.


    And so I want to, one, encourage you to do everything you can to work in a realistic, smart way to get this done. I repeat, we're here for a reason. And part of the reason is to make this dream extend everywhere.

    I'm going to do my part by setting the goal, by reminding people of the goal, by heralding the goal, and by calling people into action, both the federal level, state level, local level, and in the private sector. (Applause.)

    And so what are the barriers that we can deal with here in Washington? Well, probably the single barrier to first-time homeownership is high down payments. People take a look at the down payment, they say that's too high, I'm not buying. They may have the desire to buy, but they don't have the wherewithal to handle the down payment. We can deal with that. And so I've asked Congress to fully fund an American Dream down payment fund which will help a low-income family to qualify to buy, to buy. (Applause.)

    <snip>

    The second barrier to ownership is the lack of affordable housing. There are neighborhoods in America where you just can't find a house that's affordable to purchase, and we need to deal with that problem. The best way to do so, I think, is to set up a single family affordable housing tax credit to the tune of $2.4 billion over the next five years to encourage affordable single family housing in inner-city America. (Applause.)

    The third problem is the fact that the rules are too complex. People get discouraged by the fine print on the contracts. They take a look and say, well, I'm not so sure I want to sign this. There's too many words. (Laughter.) There's too many pitfalls. So one of the things that the Secretary is going to do is he's going to simplify the closing documents and all the documents that have to deal with homeownership.

    <snip>

    Finally, we want to make sure the Section 8 homeownership program is fully implemented. This is a program that provides vouchers for first-time home buyers which they can use for down payments and/or mortgage payments. (Applause.)

    So this is an ambitious start here at the federal level. And, again, I repeat, you all need to help us every way you can. But the private sector needs to help, too. They need to help, too. Of course, it's in their interest. If you're a realtor, it's in your interest that somebody be interested in buying a home. If you're a homebuilder, it's in your interest that somebody be interested in buying a home.

    And so, therefore, I've called -- yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I'm proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it's about $440 billion over a period of time. They've used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we're talking about here. It's in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.
    HUD Archives: President George W. Bush Speaks to HUD Employees on National Homeownership Month (6/18/02)

    Barney Frank had NOTHING on George W. Bush. It was Bush policy since 2002 to add 5.5 million MINORITY homeowners by 2010, and HE had the controls in the senate, the house, and obviously his own presidency.

    Neither Frank nor Dodd was in a majority role, that was repubs DeLay and Frist. And there was Bush applauding the efforts of Franklin Raines Fannie, and of Freddie, and having them pony up $440 Billion for the 5.5 million new MINORITY homeowners. Think they were going to all be able to qualify for a conventional mortgage? Not on your life.

    And there is NOTHING in the repeal of Glass Steagall that made any mortgage company approve a loan where the income of the mortgagee was not verified, nothing that told mortgage companies to sell mortgages with 2 year TEASER rates that would balloon and cost the homeowner his down payment, fees to the mortgage co, and his home. Glass Steagall was not at the heart of this.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You sure do need to invest more in education. If you did you might learn that where we are is meaningless unless you consider where we started.

    And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.

    After 35 years of a successful business career I will take your comments for exactly what they are worth

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just posted another link for you. Note the difference between new jobs and all jobs. Note the high number living in poverty, and the education and health care stats, all of which has been posted before.
    The SFChronicle is about as biased an exercise in liberal OpEd reporting as one can get. Do you have something credible?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no budget deficit in TX, violates the State Constitution.
    Instead of a deficient the Texas legislature kicks the can down the road, relies on federal monies, and practices the bait and switch with supposedly dedicated funds that are supposed to help people pay their electric bill.

    What up right and outstanding citizens these legislators are

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    There is no budget deficit in TX, violates the State Constitution.
    So, your paper is lying?

    A budget shortfall as high as $27 billion is projected as lawmakers work through the 2011 legislative session, according to estimates from economists and the comptroller's office. There is unity on the amount of its budget shortfall, however. Republicans who argue spending does not need to be maintained or grow from 2010-11 levels argue the shortfall could be around ...

    (snip)

    How the state fell into a hole

    Declining sales tax receipts and the recession: State lawmakers write a budget based on an educated guess of how much money will be available to spend during the period for which they're writing a budget. For example, in 2009, lawmakers wrote a budget for 2010-11. State government gets about 60 percent of its revenue from sales taxes, so when there's a dramatic drop in state revenues, or collections, there's less money to spend. During the economic recession of 2008-09, Texas saw a drop in state revenues for 14 straight months.

    Tribpedia: 2011 Budget Shortfall | The Texas Tribune

    Also from the texas Tribune, August 19th 2011 issue:

    Despite Job Growth, Texas Unemployment Rate Worst in Decades

    Despite Job Growth, Texas Unemployment Rate Worst in Decades &mdash; 2011 Budget Shortfall | The Texas Tribune

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The SFChronicle is about as biased an exercise in liberal OpEd reporting as one can get. Do you have something credible?

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    It is only one source used, but bias is never the issue j. Accuracy is. And it is accurate, supported by multiple sources. If you want bias, read the American Non-Thinker or the Weekly Standard.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Liberalism has prevented other states from capitalizing on their natural resources as well. Any idea how much oil is off the coast of California and how much the state could get in royalties? How about the East coast? Keep demonizing Perry while ignoring the mess Obama has created. I suggest you pay close attention to the Fortune 500 companies in TX because although Oil is important there are many others not related to the oil business that contributes significantly to the labor force growth and economic growth of the state. I am still waiting for any Obama supporter to really explain why they voted for Obama in 2008 and how they can justify the results TODAY
    A hell of lot less than the oil in the Gulf of Mexico water or the Northwest beach sands from the Exxon valdez, and we plan to keep it that way.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, your paper is lying?

    A budget shortfall as high as $27 billion is projected as lawmakers work through the 2011 legislative session, according to estimates from economists and the comptroller's office. There is unity on the amount of its budget shortfall, however. Republicans who argue spending does not need to be maintained or grow from 2010-11 levels argue the shortfall could be around ...

    (snip)

    How the state fell into a hole

    Declining sales tax receipts and the recession: State lawmakers write a budget based on an educated guess of how much money will be available to spend during the period for which they're writing a budget. For example, in 2009, lawmakers wrote a budget for 2010-11. State government gets about 60 percent of its revenue from sales taxes, so when there's a dramatic drop in state revenues, or collections, there's less money to spend. During the economic recession of 2008-09, Texas saw a drop in state revenues for 14 straight months.

    Tribpedia: 2011 Budget Shortfall | The Texas Tribune

    Also from the texas Tribune, August 19th 2011 issue:

    Despite Job Growth, Texas Unemployment Rate Worst in Decades

    Despite Job Growth, Texas Unemployment Rate Worst in Decades — 2011 Budget Shortfall | The Texas Tribune
    How convenient, no date on the deficit article. Obviously you don't understand that that was a TWO Year PROJECTED Deficit and that two year budget was balanced. Doubt that you understand the concept. As for your jobs argument and education argument, those aren't worth the space it took for you to type them. I will take the TX results over the national results any day and thus the jealousy of liberals.
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