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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post

    In other words, you just make sh*t up as you go along, and when you're called on it, you either ignore it or you say you don't care. Pathetic.
    In a nutshell ... yeah.

    I've caught him lying so many times and called him on it that he's claimed to ignore me 3 separate times now. Of course that too appears to be a lie because he's still posting to me.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by finebead View Post
    You are wrong again, I don't live in Sheila Jackson Lee's district; I am white, not black. That's racial prejudice assumption that is so prevalent on the conservative side is one reason the conservative position has lost acceptance in the nation, and you represent it well!

    I said I would have preferred to spend the stimulus differently. I don't think Obama walks on water. I don't like the way the executive branch works with congress, but I also dislike the way the repub leadership in congress conducts themselves, only directed to winning the next election and not to trying to do what is best for the nation. Mitch McConnell says the single most important job is to defeat Obama, but it is not. The most important job is to create a sound economy and get people back to work, and as we are one of the richest nations on earth to help those who can't take care of themselves, and to do it all fairly to all other citizens. But, the repubs won't do what is right. They are selfish and will hurt the nation in order just to make Obama look bad so they can win the next election, which they say is job one for them.

    I can take an objective view of Obama, but you have not shown an objective view of Obama, nor the failings of the repubs when they held the house, senate and white house from 2001-2006 and the white house through 2008 when the housing bubble was created on their watch and it blew up on their watch, when the banking sector was nuked, when the US waged war on Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that did not exist (at a cost of a trillion dollars, 4,400 dead, 30,000 wounded half of which could not return to combat status). There is nothing that Obama has done that nearly rises to the destruction of the economy by the repubs in the prior administration. So, why should I believe they have a clue how to fix things, when they just spout the same old lines we heard back in 2001?

    Obama is doing a better job than Bush did.
    Don't vote for Bush in 2012 and to continue to relive the past is fruitless. when you make the comments you made you sound like a Lee supporter, glad to hear you are smarter than that, so now show it.

    When does this economy become Obama's in your world. Please explain to me why their are fewer people employed today than when Obama took office, more people unemployed today than when Obama took office. Why the GDP growth in 2011 is lower than it was in 2010 and why the cost of 4 trillion added to the debt created those numbers? Businesses aren't hiring and that is because Busineses cannot print money, there has to be demand for products and Obama scares the hell out of businesses and the consumer. The results are there for all to see, when you will look at the results and stop buying the rhetoric?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    You make good points here but, what Perry is more than most other is that he is closer aligned with the constitution, not saying he is exactly but it appears to be. The best plan for economical recovery is for the government to step aside and this is the impression I am getting from Perry. My mind isn't made up by any stretch but I am not ready to bury him, the left as you can see already made their mind up the secons he hinted about running and nothing will change it.
    I've made up my mind about him so far because he isn't showing me anything special about getting the economy back on track and he is certainly not an ideal choice for me on social issues. So, I will probably vote for Obama, if he gets the nomination, rather than get someone who is possibly going to cause harm to people on the social issues.

    As for the Constitutional issues, I see a need for having a somewhat stronger federal government than we had or needed 200 years ago. It cannot be denied that states had too much power when it came to many things and we are not the same country now as we were then. Some change is good.

    I didn't know about him til people on here mentioned him running, then, as usual, I looked him up, including his policies and decided how close we are to each other's political philosophies. He is very far from me.

    Now, Huntsman would likely get my vote or at least not lose my vote to Obama. I can't give my vote to any candidate though who is willing to dismiss facts (such as in the Willingham case) without even considering that there might not have even been a crime to actually execute someone for. And it certainly appears as though he doesn't care that an innocent man was likely executed.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    STOP SPINNING! The chart on the page I linked provides the PERCENTAGE NUMBERS for each state, and Texas and MS have the highest PERCENTAGE of minimum wage workers by population in the country. Just admit that you were wrong for once in your life. It won't kill you.
    I don't think you even understand what has been reported, from the article let's see if you can figure it out

    Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.
    Read more: Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post

    Link to the BLS data, then, if you think it makes your case. Because no one believes you -- seriously.

    "Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

    Some 550,000 Texans, or 9.5 percent of hourly paid workers, made the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or less last year. That's up 76,000 workers, or 16 percent, from 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Monday.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    One of your own posted the following

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

    Shows the labor force in TX so using the number 550,000 what is the percentage of that labor force in minimum wage jobs?
    What a pity English is your second language, otherwise, you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself confusing 550,000 mininum wage earners out of hourly paid workers where you're confusing hourly paid workers with all 12 million workers.

    Tsk, tsk, Con.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What a pity English is your second language, otherwise, you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself confusing 550,000 mininum wage earners out of hourly paid workers where you're confusing hourly paid workers with all 12 million workers.

    Tsk, tsk, Con.
    I am not confusing it at all, Adam is, Hourly workers make up what percentage of the TX workforce. think about it and get back to me.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I don't see marriage defined or even mentioned in there, thanks for posting.
    Marriage is a legally binding contract and is subject to U.S. law, which the Constitution demands equal protection for all.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, bull****, you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. Where was your outrage over the dot.com bubble bursting and the recession that Bush inherited. Facts always get in the way of liberals who continue to bet indoctrinated by a leftwing media.

    Nothing to indicate Obama has destroyed the economy? Obama is incompetent, no leadership skills, and no management experience. Looking like a double dip.

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    You just can compare the dot com bubble with the housing bubble. The thing that really pulled the rug from the economy was the mortaged backed securities of the subprime loans that were subsequently fraudulently rated AAA during George Bush's watch. Thinking these were good, these securities found their way into communities, pensions, etc.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post

    What are you guys going to say if the national economy continues to improve and the TX economy continues to decline? Whose fault will that be?
    *If* this, if that...*if* doesn't cut it.

    The bottom line - Any (thats right..any) Rep candidate will have an easy time showing why Obama's tax, spending, and regulatory policies are responsible for the sluggishness we find ourselves in right now. Perry just needs to make the most forceful argument in this regard and everything will fall in its place

    Obama has truly ****ed things up royally and it won't be hard for any "R" candidate to point out how. And another thing... *blame Bush* bull**** won't work this time around

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I am not confusing it at all, Adam is, Hourly workers make up what percentage of the TX workforce. think about it and get back to me.
    How can Adam be confusing it when he's merely posting what the BLS claims?


    Among hourly-paid workers in Texas, 550,000 had earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour in 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. (See chart 1.) Nearly 5.8 million workers were paid at hourly rates, representing 55.7 percent of all Texas wage and salary workers.1. Regional Commissioner Stanley W. Suchman noted that the number of Texans paid at or below the Federal minimum wage increased as the number of workers earning the exact Federal minimum wage rose, while the number of Texans paid below the minimum wage declined. Combined, these workers accounted for 9.5 percent of all hourly-paid workers in Texas.2. (See chart 2 and table 1.)

    Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2010


    Seems you think the Liberal BLS is once again posting bias figures.

    Here ya go, in case you lost it after the last time I gave it to you ... the BLS correction information ... g'head and tell the BLS they're confused.

    Point of Contact for Complaints Concerning BLS Information Quality



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