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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The hell with anything else, the candidate that can show he/she has a record of creating jobs and seeing their state/consituency not fall into debt is going to be the one everyone likes more -- Enter Perry.

    Everyone needs a job.

    Remember - The economic meltdown fried McCain (your candidate in '08). The failure to remedy the situation, and leading us into another downturn, will likely fry Obama in 2012


    Why should I be concerned about the economy when it comes to Perry vs Obama when neither candidate can show me a good economic policy to get this country back on track faster? Don't get me wrong, I want the economy to improve. But it isn't like Perry has given us the magical answer for that. And from what I have seen about his running of TX, he doesn't actually have it. He is basing his claims on a product of circumstance.

    What are you guys going to say if the national economy continues to improve and the TX economy continues to decline? Whose fault will that be?
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Show me where Marriage is defined in the Constitution and I will change my mind.
    Well that's easy ...


    Amendment XIV, Section 1

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.



    Allowing a heterosexual the legal right to marry whom ever they want while denying homosexuals that same opportunity is denying them equal protection of the law. And it's discrimanitory based by gender, which is even further violation.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Marriage has nothing to do with equality and isn't a civil right, get over it.
    Oh, what is it?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    That is a lie, they have the highest number but not the highest percentage. You don't know what you are talking about. what percentage of 12.2 million is 550,000?
    And here I thought you were allergic to percentages. Who knew you like them when it suits your argument?


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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Check the last chart on this BLS page and then explain why Texas's numbers are SHOCKINGLY worse than every other state in the country: Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2010

    If you don't get a good education you could be one of those low income earners. Let's see if you can understand what I am going to say, 550,000 is the largest number of minimum wage workers in the nation but with a labor force of over 12 million that is less than 5% since you cannot calculate the percentage. The employees that make minimum wage here average between 16-24 years of age and many are second income earners if they are a family member. Very few are head of household. IMO doesn't really matter and what you want to ignore is that there are over 25 million unemployed or under employed people in this country today. The unemployed are being paid by taxpayer dollars, those making any wage aren't. You are funding people to sit on their asses all because working any job is beneath some people

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well that's easy ...

    Amendment XIV, Section 1

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.



    Allowing a heterosexual the legal right to marry whom ever they want while denying homosexuals that same opportunity is denying them equal protection of the law. And it's discrimanitory based by gender, which is even further violation.
    I don't see marriage defined or even mentioned in there, thanks for posting.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you don't get a good education you could be one of those low income earners. Let's see if you can understand what I am going to say, 550,000 is the largest number of minimum wage workers in the nation but with a labor force of over 12 million that is less than 5% since you cannot calculate the percentage. The employees that make minimum wage here average between 16-24 years of age and many are second income earners if they are a family member. Very few are head of household. IMO doesn't really matter and what you want to ignore is that there are over 25 million unemployed or under employed people in this country today. The unemployed are being paid by taxpayer dollars, those making any wage aren't. You are funding people to sit on their asses all because working any job is beneath some people
    STOP SPINNING! The chart on the page I linked provides the PERCENTAGE NUMBERS for each state, and Texas and MS have the highest PERCENTAGE of minimum wage workers by population in the country. Just admit that you were wrong for once in your life. It won't kill you.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why should I be concerned about the economy when it comes to Perry vs Obama when neither candidate can show me a good economic policy to get this country back on track faster? Don't get me wrong, I want the economy to improve. But it isn't like Perry has given us the magical answer for that. And from what I have seen about his running of TX, he doesn't actually have it. He is basing his claims on a product of circumstance.

    What are you guys going to say if the national economy continues to improve and the TX economy continues to decline? Whose fault will that be?
    You make good points here but, what Perry is more than most others is that he is closer aligned with the constitution, not saying he is exactly but it appears to be. The best plan for economical recovery is for the government to step aside and this is the impression I am getting from Perry. My mind isn't made up by any stretch but I am not ready to bury him, the left as you can see already made their mind up the seconds after he hinted about running and nothing will change it.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actual results prove you wrong, keep ignoring them and those numbers are 2 1/2 years after Obama took office. I don't think you really have a clue and think only with your heart. From Houston? Hmmm, must be in Sheil Jackson Lee's District

    By the way the Obama stimulus program was sold as an infrastructure program. How did that work out for you?
    You are wrong again, I don't live in Sheila Jackson Lee's district; I am white, not black. That's racial prejudice assumption that is so prevalent on the conservative side is one reason the conservative position has lost acceptance in the nation, and you represent it well!

    I said I would have preferred to spend the stimulus differently. I don't think Obama walks on water. I don't like the way the executive branch works with congress, but I also dislike the way the repub leadership in congress conducts themselves, only directed to winning the next election and not to trying to do what is best for the nation. Mitch McConnell says the single most important job is to defeat Obama, but it is not. The most important job is to create a sound economy and get people back to work, and as we are one of the richest nations on earth to help those who can't take care of themselves, and to do it all fairly to all other citizens. But, the repubs won't do what is right. They are selfish and will hurt the nation in order just to make Obama look bad so they can win the next election, which they say is job one for them.

    I can take an objective view of Obama, but you have not shown an objective view of Obama, nor the failings of the repubs when they held the house, senate and white house from 2001-2006 and the white house through 2008 when the housing bubble was created on their watch and it blew up on their watch, when the banking sector was nuked, when the US waged war on Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that did not exist (at a cost of a trillion dollars, 4,400 dead, 30,000 wounded half of which could not return to combat status). There is nothing that Obama has done that nearly rises to the destruction of the economy by the repubs in the prior administration. So, why should I believe they have a clue how to fix things, when they just spout the same old lines we heard back in 2001?

    Obama is doing a better job than Bush did.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why should I be concerned about the economy when it comes to Perry vs Obama when neither candidate can show me a good economic policy to get this country back on track faster? Don't get me wrong, I want the economy to improve. But it isn't like Perry has given us the magical answer for that. And from what I have seen about his running of TX, he doesn't actually have it. He is basing his claims on a product of circumstance.

    What are you guys going to say if the national economy continues to improve and the TX economy continues to decline? Whose fault will that be?
    I don't think that is going to happen. TX has basically escaped most of the hardships created by the recession and continues to grow jobs. Right now however the population and labor force are growing so fact that it is having a hard time keeping up. I think TX will continue to thrive over all though as it always has. It is a pro business state and businesses are moving here all the time. Going to get really bad though if Obama does raise taxes as more and more businesses are going to look for low tax states and move there to compensate for paying higher federal taxes.

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