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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You proved nothing other than you are a typical liberal who cannot admit when wrong. BLS disagrees with you and that is the only data that matters.
    Link to the BLS data, then, if you think it makes your case. Because no one believes you -- seriously.

    "Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

    Some 550,000 Texans, or 9.5 percent of hourly paid workers, made the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or less last year. That's up 76,000 workers, or 16 percent, from 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Monday.

    Leslie Helmcamp, a policy analyst with the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities, which focuses on low- and moderate-income Texans, called the numbers “alarming.”

    “The higher proportion of hourly paid workers who are earning at or below the minimum wage is reflective of our low high school and college completion rates,” Helmcamp said. “We can only attract higher-paying jobs if we are able to move more Texans into higher education and ultimately complete a college degree.”


    Read more: Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of which proves your case. Shall you quote from the above that proves your case right?
    Look, I really don't give a damn, you want to spout misinformation, so be it. What is it about liberals that creates people like you. The facts are available, get them. I am not going to post McDonalds compensation information on line. I know what I have and know how I competed against. whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to me

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Look, I really don't give a damn, you want to spout misinformation, so be it. What is it about liberals that creates people like you. The facts are available, get them. I am not going to post McDonalds compensation information on line. I know what I have and know how I competed against. whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to me
    In other words, you just make sh*t up as you go along, and when you're called on it, you either ignore it or you say you don't care. Pathetic.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Link to the BLS data, then, if you think it makes your case. Because no one believes you -- seriously.

    "Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

    Some 550,000 Texans, or 9.5 percent of hourly paid workers, made the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or less last year. That's up 76,000 workers, or 16 percent, from 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Monday.

    Leslie Helmcamp, a policy analyst with the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities, which focuses on low- and moderate-income Texans, called the numbers “alarming.”

    “The higher proportion of hourly paid workers who are earning at or below the minimum wage is reflective of our low high school and college completion rates,” Helmcamp said. “We can only attract higher-paying jobs if we are able to move more Texans into higher education and ultimately complete a college degree.”


    Read more: Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News
    The labor force in TX is over 12 million people and there are 550,000 minimum wage jobs in the state, what percentage is that? Looks like someone doesn't have a clue how to figure out the percentage

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Plus, you have yet to address the more social issues that I take issue with him on. Those are important to me too, since the economy is only part of this country and not likely going to get much worse at this point the way it is currently going.
    The hell with anything else, the candidate that can show he/she has a record of creating jobs and seeing their state/consituency not fall into debt is going to be the one everyone likes more -- Enter Perry.

    Everyone needs a job.


    Remember - The economic meltdown fried McCain (your candidate in '08). The failure to remedy the situation, and leading us into another downturn, will likely fry Obama in 2012





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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The labor force in TX is over 12 million people and there are 550,000 minimum wage jobs in the state, what percentage is that? Looks like someone doesn't have a clue how to figure out the percentage
    The percentage is the highest percentage of any state in the country, save Mississippi, with which you tie for last. Fact.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    sorry but without a strong economy and defense nothing else matters. As for govt. jobs, TX has a labor force of over 12 million and 1.8 million govt. jobs or less than 10%. The Irish times? Come on, you can do better than that. Read what has been posted here on economic results for TX and then go to bls.gov and research the site. That has all the employment data you could ever want. Show me that you aren't really a full blown liberal and get the facts.

    As for social issues, I am against SSM and never will be, Civil unions serve the same purpose and the only ones that want SSM are the trouble makers and I have no use for them. I am a traditionalist and will always remain one
    I would love to see us be able to be almost self sufficient for our personal needs, such as family gardens and self supported electricity. This would then make it easier for people to actually be able to work in what they want, for what they want without having to worry too much about how their family will eat or survive just from the money they make. It would probably lead to a better economy and wealth distribution all around too.

    What facts am I missing? Where did Perry make these jobs for the state of TX? You should know right? You are the one who is hounding about how good he has been for TX. If he is that good at making jobs, then what is doing it? What proof do you have to show that it is due to his policies and not the things that I have mentioned.

    I looked and found that government jobs were rising steadily in TX until May 2010, now they are in a slow decline, most likely due to budget shortfalls. This isn't a positive thing. And much of the rest of the data goes along with what I have been reading. If you want to show me something significant, point me to something specific, not just the entire BLS website.

    And I am for SSM and that will not change. It is quite obvious that Perry is not, even in just leaving it to the states, since he wants a marriage amendment. This is not smaller government. In fact, it is the very opposite of the government staying out of the business of the people since it is restricting people on who they can enter into a social contract with based solely on the sex of those involved.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Link to the BLS data, then, if you think it makes your case. Because no one believes you -- seriously.

    "Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

    Some 550,000 Texans, or 9.5 percent of hourly paid workers, made the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or less last year. That's up 76,000 workers, or 16 percent, from 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Monday.

    Leslie Helmcamp, a policy analyst with the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities, which focuses on low- and moderate-income Texans, called the numbers “alarming.”

    “The higher proportion of hourly paid workers who are earning at or below the minimum wage is reflective of our low high school and college completion rates,” Helmcamp said. “We can only attract higher-paying jobs if we are able to move more Texans into higher education and ultimately complete a college degree.”


    Read more: Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News
    One of your own posted the following

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

    Shows the labor force in TX so using the number 550,000 what is the percentage of that labor force in minimum wage jobs?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So are you saying that minimum wage jobs that those provided by McDonalds are able to sustain a family? Not sure what you are trying to state. Right now the FAMILY household is trying to sustain itself and people like you are saying those in Texas providing MINIMUM wage jobs are doing just that. Remember TX is leading the country in MIN wage jobs, so how is that helping a family?
    Never said such a thing or even implied it, but are you implying that McDonald is the major employer in Texas? Texas is just about on par with the rest of the country.
    Here is some census info:
    Median household income, 2009 $48,286 Nation wide $50,221
    Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009 17.1% Nation wide 14.3%
    Texas QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    One of your own posted the following

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

    Shows the labor force in TX so using the number 550,000 what is the percentage of that labor force in minimum wage jobs?
    Check the last chart on this BLS page and then explain why Texas's numbers are SHOCKINGLY worse than every other state in the country (save MS): Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2010
    Last edited by AdamT; 08-22-11 at 12:10 AM.

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