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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not only did Perry use federal government money to help TX create more jobs, including government jobs,

    Perry relies on 'Texas miracle' to advance presidential bid - The Irish Times - Mon, Aug 22, 2011

    he also used state money to start a program that gives grants to companies for moving their business to TX. Granted he was not alone in the creation of this program and it isn't a bad program, I am just pointing out where taxpayer money is being used to create jobs in TX. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be done very fairly, since many of those getting these grants and/or jobs from the governor are also his campaign contributors.

    Besides this, a good portion of those jobs being created are due to the rise in military personnel in TX. Since our military is funded by the federal taxpayers and the governor of a state has very little say in an increase in military personnel in his state, besides maybe to refuse it, then you cannot say that it was Gov. Perry who created those jobs. It was technically taxpayer money paying for those military personnel and their support needs that led to an increase in population of those areas, and therefore, an increase in business in those areas where military personnel are in TX.



    First of all, from the start of me entering this thread, I have said that I believe Obamacare is wrong (read: unconstitutional). It is mandating people to purchase insurance.

    Second of all, show me a utopian society at all in this world and we can discuss how they handle healthcare. I'm pretty sure you won't find one. I would like to see a NHC system, not mandated national health insurance. It would be more practical than either continuing to cover everyone who absolutely cannot pay or allowing those who can't pay to suffer due to the high price of health care.



    And I didn't vote for Obama. I voted for McCain.

    I agree, Obama has little leadership skills, but I also believe the same thing about Perry. I have looked at what is going on in TX and what his stances are on other issues, besides economic ones. I do not like him in either situation. Show me what exactly Perry has done to increase TX job creation, instead of just giving numbers. The numbers do not equal the policies, they would be the result of multiple factors, that I have mentioned. You want to prove me wrong, show me some facts and some policies that he implemented/suggested that actually helped bring jobs to his state without hurting the budget or any other part of the state, including education and healthcare.

    Plus, you have yet to address the more social issues that I take issue with him on. Those are important to me too, since the economy is only part of this country and not likely going to get much worse at this point the way it is currently going.
    sorry but without a strong economy and defense nothing else matters. As for govt. jobs, TX has a labor force of over 12 million and 1.8 million govt. jobs or less than 10%. The Irish times? Come on, you can do better than that. Read what has been posted here on economic results for TX and then go to bls.gov and research the site. That has all the employment data you could ever want. Show me that you aren't really a full blown liberal and get the facts.

    As for social issues, I am against SSM and never will be, Civil unions serve the same purpose and the only ones that want SSM are the trouble makers and I have no use for them. I am a traditionalist and will always remain one

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by finebead View Post
    Bull **** on you. The govt. played NO role in the dot com bubble, it was pure investor speculation. Interest rates were at normal levels, no govt. subsidy to anyone. That was pure investor stupidity.

    And one time you say Obama is destroying the economy, I call you on it and you have NOTHING. Lack of leadership, HA, Jack that ain't "destroying the economy". Looking like a double dip "is not a double dip". It is normal after a recession to provide stimulus to jump start the economy, and it is normal for the economy to slow a bit when the stimulus is removed (as this one has been spent out). Until it IS a double dip, you got nothing!

    1.3% GDP is better than Bush ended his admin with, and the downgrade in the credit was predicated on congress not being able to get its act together, (primarily because of the tea party repubs insistence on no closing of unnecessary tax loopholes) and S&P said just that. Obama's JAR at 40% is twice as good as Bush ended with. Given the severity of the situation he was handed, Obama has done OK. I would have preferred to see a long term building infrastructure program like replacement of aging bridges around the nation that would have run 20 years, like building the interstate highway system, but what was done has certainly not "destroyed the economy" as you said.
    Actual results prove you wrong, keep ignoring them and those numbers are 2 1/2 years after Obama took office. I don't think you really have a clue and think only with your heart. From Houston? Hmmm, must be in Sheil Jackson Lee's District

    By the way the Obama stimulus program was sold as an infrastructure program. How did that work out for you?
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As for social issues, I am against SSM and never will be, Civil unions serve the same purpose and the only ones that want SSM are the trouble makers and I have no use for them. I am a traditionalist and will always remain one
    Ahh so the truth comes out, you tell me I am stupid for wanting SSM in today's climate, but your kind continues to make it a big deal. Hypocrites that YOU support.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep those extra jobs like McDonald s have REALLY helped the families grown their income. It's good that so called "AMERICANS" such as yourself have helped America become more like China. Hell, I would rather your kind in Texas just walk in front of a oncoming bus, it would be less harmful to America.
    I think McDonald's is world wide up to including doing business in all 50 states. Texas is guilty of allowing MacDonalds to hire Texas citizens, then this standard should apply to the remaining 49 states. Just about every major retail business in Texas also exist in the 49 other states as well.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Ahh so the truth comes out, you tell me I am stupid for wanting SSM in today's climate, but your kind continues to make it a big deal. Hypocrites that YOU support.
    Show me where Marriage is defined in the Constitution and I will change my mind. You have the same rights I have in that area and can marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you. Your decision is to try and make it a civil right. The only way that is going to happen is if it gets to the Supreme Court and they define it as a civil right. I will wait for that ruling.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I think McDonald's is world wide up to including doing business in all 50 states. Texas is guilty of allowing MacDonalds to hire Texas citizens, then this standard should apply to the remaining 49 states. Just about every major retail business in Texas also exist in the 49 other states as well.
    You're right but the difference is I am not Applauding people like McDonalds like Conservative is. He is saying that just Mcdonalds Minimum wage jobs are flourishing in Texas that somehow that is something to be applauded for. Just because MINIMUM wage JOBS are increasing doesn't mean that it is helping the AMERICAN economy on jobs. There are people with families that MINIMUM wage jobs (even if someone were to work two of them full-time) would not help the families like a true flourishing economy would as Conservative says there is in Texas and isn't.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Show me where Marriage is defined in the Constitution and I will change my mind. You have the same rights I have in that area and can marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you. Your decision is to try and make it a civil right. The only way that is going to happen is if it gets to the Supreme Court and they define it as a civil right. I will wait for that ruling.
    Actually if SSM was legalized YOU could also marry someone of the opposite sex. It is EQUAL. You just don't like EQUALITY. I always knew you were against EQUALITY.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I think McDonald's is world wide up to including doing business in all 50 states. Texas is guilty of allowing MacDonalds to hire Texas citizens, then this standard should apply to the remaining 49 states. Just about every major retail business in Texas also exist in the 49 other states as well.
    Aw the emotion of a liberal who really doesn't care about anyone else but wants us all to believe they do. Every liberal is such an expert on who works at McDonalds, that they pay minimum wages, have no opportunities for advancement, and are part of the problem that creates poverty in this state and every other. Just shows how arrogant and actually ignorant many are. First of all most McDonalds are franchises thus not controlled by the company as far as what to pay their employees. NO Company operation that I know of pays minimum wage and in fact started some employees in parts of the country at well over $10 an hour. I know that for a fact.

    Many McDonalds employees are first time job holders and normal employees are 16-24, not married with kids and owning a home. Most McDonalds are good corporate citizens and create opportunities for a lot of people who would never have an opportunity to work for a company that creates opportunities for advancement. Liberals always have preconceived ideas as to what a good wage is especially when they never ran a business.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually if SSM was legalized YOU could also marry someone of the opposite sex. It is EQUAL. You just don't like EQUALITY. I always knew you were against EQUALITY.
    Marriage has nothing to do with equality and isn't a civil right, get over it.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Seriously, knock off the spinning, Conservative. The fact is that Texas has the highest percentage of lowest paying jobs of any state in the country. All the spinning in the world isn't going to change that fact.

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