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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Tax cuts do have to be paid for with spending cuts. If you don't cut how much is going out when less is coming in, you get deficits.
    No, tax cuts allow people to keep more of what they earn, they are not an expense and thus don't have to be paid for. Spending has to be paid for. I cannot figure out why you and others cannot understand that. To me that is brainwashing.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Stop lying. Results do not matter to you. If results mattered to you, you would have voted for Clinton in 1996 and you would not have voted for Bush in 2004. Whether you accept it or not is irrelevant, but it's been pretty well established that since Reagan, the only "R" word that matters to you is "R"epublican.
    Still waiting for you to explain how the 8.4% unemployment rate didn't help the national unemployment rate and that you were wrong.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    As far as why people are migrating to Texas, I have no idea. Why are people flocking to Utah? Why are people flocking to Wyoming, Colorado, and Arizona? Those are the states with the highest immigration and there is no single answer why.
    Its places like California, dude. A state that is properly ****ed. It is hemorrhaging tax revenue at an unsustainable rate that rivals the federal. The state government is the most inefficient aggregate of idiotic concepts and idealists. Local municipalities by and large are cesspools of corruption and mismanagement on a scale that would embarrass the most tight assed Enron executive.

    People are beating down the doors to move to Texas.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Its places like California, dude. A state that is properly ****ed. It is hemorrhaging tax revenue at an unsustainable rate that rivals the federal. The state government is the most inefficient aggregate of idiotic concepts and idealists. Local municipalities by and large are cesspools of corruption and mismanagement on a scale that would embarrass the most tight assed Enron executive.

    People are beating down the doors to move to Texas.
    For our cesspool-less and uncorrupted municipalities,

    FBI spends day searching through home of Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price and his assistants - KDAF

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011000557.html
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Well there is one common denominator, most states you mentioned are conservative states meaning less regulation and lower taxes. I'll give no head a state ie; Governor of Texas or any other state's Governor credit for any thing accomplished in the private sector. What i will give Perry credit for is staying out of the way of the private sector and allowing the market to do what it does best, making money and hiring the citizens of Texas. Although on the other hand state Governors can take the credit for stepping on the necks of free markets and stifling growth and job creation, and as far as I can tell Perry is not a participant in this scenario.
    And yet, unemployment in Texas is up 31% since 2009; more than the national average of 17%.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    The current budget of the United States is 3.7 trillion dollars and that is outrageous. It is the role of the states and local communities to promote domestic welfare and to implement programs for the poor, not the Federal Bureaucracy. What does a politician in D.C. know about a social problem in San Diego. Why is that role delegated and paid for by the Federal Taxpayers? That is the problem and the nanny state being promoted by Obama. I don't blame Obama for we are getting exactly what his resume showed. I didn't vote for him and won't in 2012. He didn't deserve a first term let alone a second one.
    What social program, besides Obamacare, did Obama implement that wasn't there before he took office? I can't think of any and technically, Obamacare isn't in affect yet. As I said, I hate Obamacare.

    Letting the states handle it on their own doesn't work. If it did, we wouldn't have states taking money and needing to take money from the federal government, and not just for things that the federal government mandates.

    What does a politician in California know about the needs of a person in San Diego? For that matter, what does a politician in San Diego know about the needs for all the people in their city? I would love to see more positive social programs handled at the state and local levels, but the state and local governments are doing just as bad as the federal government and they love to do things that impact the freedom of their citizens a lot more often than the federal government does.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Still waiting for you to explain how the 8.4% unemployment rate didn't help the national unemployment rate and that you were wrong.
    How can I be the one wrong here when you're the one who said, since Obama took office. Don't you even realize that factors in more than just the current unemployment rate? Don't you even realize that factors in the change in unemployment since January of 2009? Don't you even realize that factoring in unemployment rates since January of 2009 means comparing 17% increase to unemployment (1.3 percentage points) with a 31% increase to unemployment (2.0 percentage points)? Don't you even realize that a 2.0 percentage point increase to unemployment is worse than a 1.3 percentage point increase to unemployment? Don't you even realize that a 31% increase to unemployment is worse than a 17% percentage point increase to unemployment? Don't you even realize that if the increase to unemployment since January of 2009 was worse for Texas than it was the nation overall, which it was, that is worse for the national average, not better?

    Nah, you understand only one thing ...
    "R"epublican.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What social program, besides Obamacare, did Obama implement that wasn't there before he took office? I can't think of any and technically, Obamacare isn't in affect yet. As I said, I hate Obamacare.

    Letting the states handle it on their own doesn't work. If it did, we wouldn't have states taking money and needing to take money from the federal government, and not just for things that the federal government mandates.

    What does a politician in California know about the needs of a person in San Diego? For that matter, what does a politician in San Diego know about the needs for all the people in their city? I would love to see more positive social programs handled at the state and local levels, but the state and local governments are doing just as bad as the federal government and they love to do things that impact the freedom of their citizens a lot more often than the federal government does.
    Much of the so called stimulus program for shovel ready jobs was a social program bailing out union pensions and saving public service jobs, i.e. teachers or so he said. He expaned Medicaid, Unemployment benefits, and has turned loose the NLRB to attack right to work states.

    Letting the states handle there own is the only thing that makes any sense, closer to the people and thus the problems. Our fore fathers knew that power corrupts and a strong central govt is too far removed from the people to control. If a politician in California doesn't know about problems in San Diego whose problem is that, the people of TX? It is much easier to divert blame when you have a large central govt. and have local problems.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How can I be the one wrong here when you're the one who said, since Obama took office. Don't you even realize that factors in more than just the current unemployment rate? Don't you even realize that factors in the change in unemployment since January of 2009? Don't you even realize that factoring in unemployment rates since January of 2009 means comparing 17% increase to unemployment (1.3 percentage points) with a 31% increase to unemployment (2.0 percentage points)? Don't you even realize that a 2.0 percentage point increase to unemployment is worse than a 1.3 percentage point increase to unemployment? Don't you even realize that a 31% increase to unemployment is worse than a 17% percentage point increase to unemployment? Don't you even realize that if the increase to unemployment since January of 2009 was worse for Texas than it was the nation overall, which it was, that is worse for the national average, not better?

    Nah, you understand only one thing ...
    "R"epublican.
    keep spinning, 8.4% unemployment helped lower the Obama unemployment rate and from what I remember from basic math 8.4% is less than 9.1% just like 6.4% is less than 7.6%. TX is helping Obama look better. You continue to show that your ego won't let you admit when you are wrong. Claiming the unemployment rate change is a good measurement shows how little you really know and understand about basic economics. The labor force continues to grow in TX while it is declining at the Federal Level. Just think if Obama cuts enough from the labor force and no longer counts the discouraged he will have a great unemployment rate number. Sounds like a liberal plan

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Much of the so called stimulus program for shovel ready jobs was a social program bailing out union pensions and saving public service jobs, i.e. teachers or so he said. He expaned Medicaid, Unemployment benefits, and has turned loose the NLRB to attack right to work states.

    Letting the states handle there own is the only thing that makes any sense, closer to the people and thus the problems. Our fore fathers knew that power corrupts and a strong central govt is too far removed from the people to control. If a politician in California doesn't know about problems in San Diego whose problem is that, the people of TX? It is much easier to divert blame when you have a large central govt. and have local problems.
    So no other President has used federal money to make federal and even state jobs? What about the fact that Rick Perry used some of that stimulus money to make those jobs in TX? The other things you mentioned were all programs in place before Obama took office. He didn't implement any of them. He may have expanded some of them, but he didn't actually implement any.

    And why isn't Perry's program of basically bribing companies with government money a problem to you?

    Also, what exact problems are you talking about? How is health care needs going to be that much different in CA than it is in TX? Don't people in this entire country need food? Aren't the poor people going to still be poor and unable to afford those things I mentioned above whether they live in CA or TX? And then there is education? Actually I can't stand NCLB and if I'm not mistaken, wasn't that a Bush program?

    You can blame this country on Obama all you want, but it doesn't mean that Rick Perry is the solution. Obama is definitely not a good President, but Rick Perry, from my POV, would be much worse. And considering he is all for an anti-SSM amendment, I don't see how anyone can say he is for less government. Another thing that shows he isn't for less government, is the fact that he is offering bribes to businesses to bring them to his state. Is he going to do this on the national level, with federal funds? How is that less government?
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