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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    They do matter to me but those are local issues, I don't have a problem with my school district at all, nor do I have a problem with the economic policy of TX. I have a serious problem with the nanny state being promoted by Obama as would you if you are a true Texan. Healthcare is a personal responsibilty as well.

    My son graduated from this school district and is a successful architect. My grandkids are getting a great education in this District that has the elementary Principal of the Year.
    Ahhh I see as long as you think / percieve it doesn't affect you everything is hunky doorey

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You have to consider where he started.

    And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
    Of course he did and added four trillion to the debt creating these numbers. If you spent the money Obama has spent and generated these numbers you wouldn't have your job right now but you give Obama a pass

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Ahhh I see as long as you think / percieve it doesn't affect you everything is hunky doorey
    The numbers back me up as does the context of those numbers.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The numbers back me up as does the context of those numbers.
    Whatever you think con

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What makes you an expert on Perry and TX when I live here and have for 19 years. The Perry record trumps the Obama record as does his resume. Obama has done enough damage in less than 3 years yet that doesn't seem to matter. I am still waiting for you to explain why businesses are moving their employees to this "hell hole" and why the numbers for Obama are being ignored. You really don't seem to understand TX at all but have no problem ignoring the Obama promises and then his record.

    Why would anyone vote for someone with this record?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    Because, he isn't responsible alone for most of the job growth within Texas. Many of the policies that he considers the draw for those companies to move to Texas were in place before he took office. And the one he implemented seems to be providing a lot of money to people who donated money to his campaigns. And, many of the jobs, like those within the energy industry or due to the increased military in TX have nothing whatsoever to do with his being in office. I don't have to live there to read or apply common sense to what is going on.

    So, I consider the fact that his record shows that he hasn't done a whole lot for TX, but rather got lucky in the way the economy went and where TX sat in that situation.

    Then I look at what he is offering to improve the economy,
    -changing tax laws to benefit corporations and/or the rich...not good in my eyes
    -if we go by what he has done in TX, many jobs created in the US would be lower wage jobs
    -plus, the education system of TX is suffering
    -on most social issues, I disagree with him profusely, with the possible exceptions of gun control and immigration, and I have seen and heard little from him on either of these on a national level
    -seems to dismiss evidence that he finds inconvenient or that contradicts his own beliefs...not a good position for any Presidential hopeful to take
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because, he isn't responsible alone for most of the job growth within Texas. Many of the policies that he considers the draw for those companies to move to Texas were in place before he took office. And the one he implemented seems to be providing a lot of money to people who donated money to his campaigns. And, many of the jobs, like those within the energy industry or due to the increased military in TX have nothing whatsoever to do with his being in office. I don't have to live there to read or apply common sense to what is going on.

    So, I consider the fact that his record shows that he hasn't done a whole lot for TX, but rather got lucky in the way the economy went and where TX sat in that situation.

    Then I look at what he is offering to improve the economy,
    -changing tax laws to benefit corporations and/or the rich...not good in my eyes
    -if we go by what he has done in TX, many jobs created in the US would be lower wage jobs
    -plus, the education system of TX is suffering
    -on most social issues, I disagree with him profusely, with the possible exceptions of gun control and immigration, and I have seen and heard little from him on either of these on a national level
    -seems to dismiss evidence that he finds inconvenient or that contradicts his own beliefs...not a good position for any Presidential hopeful to take
    Do you think Obama has done anything positive for this country? Stop buying the rhetoric and get the facts. Jobs created in TX aren't all low wage jobs. Fortune 500 Companies don't pay low wages and benefits. Sounds to me like your leanings are skewed left not right. This country wasn't built on the vision of Barack Obama but was more in line with Perry, limited and not a nanny state. States' rights were established and not a large Central govt.

    Don't know if Perry will be the candidate but if he is he beats the alternative but not the distorted view being presented by those with an agenda. Get the facts and don't just buy the rhetoric.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great numbers Pb, please explain why those haven't led to a net job gain in this country? If you lose more jobs than you create your chart is worthless
    Notice this chart reflects only private sector jobs,not government jobs, something you dislike.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Notice this chart reflects only private sector jobs,not government jobs, something you dislike.
    The unemployment number includes both and the net is a job loss for Obama since he took office. There has been a net private sector job loss as well but it is the total that matters. by the way help your buddy Sheik out and explain to him that the TX 8.4%unemployment rate helps lower the national rate and that the percentage change in TX doesn't really matter. He doesn't seem to understand that 8.4 is less than 9.1. By the way if you take the TX labor force and unemployment out of the total the National Unemployment rate would be 9.2% so the rate is lower with TX included

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post

    You can't see it? Large influx of people moving Texas looking for work, filing for unemployment or already on it but now reside in Texas, this makes the numbers change. Now a question for you , if Texas is one of the worst states to live in regarding unemployment and other factors, then why the large influx of people moving to Texas, especially from NYC and L.A. You can post numbers, statistics and theories but the fly in the butter milk is that thousand upon thousands are flocking to Texas..WHY?
    First off, I never said Texas was one of the worst states to live in, though I, and others have certainly pointed out some of Texas' shortcomings. That aside, you can't give Perry credit for the increase in employment while at the same time, make excuses for him for the rise in the unemployment rate as they go hand in hand.

    As far as why people are migrating to Texas, I have no idea. Why are people flocking to Utah? Why are people flocking to Wyoming, Colorado, and Arizona? Those are the states with the highest immigration and there is no single answer why.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Keep digging that hold deeper, TX unemployment is lower than the national average and that helps the total number. You simply cannot admit that you are wrong. The change in TX unemployment doesn't matter, the unemployment number does when it relates to the national rate
    Seriously? It doesn't matter that that unemployment rose more under Perry than it has under Obama??



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