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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Simply posting statistics without the full story behind it isn't right. I'll add just one more piece to the puzzle, when a county, state or country has a large influx of people moving in, it will no doubt affect the unemployment rate will it not? I am sure there are many more medicating circumstances as well.
    Map: Where Americans Are Moving - Forbes.com
    But this goes both ways. It means that they are not keeping up with the amount of people moving into the state Texas by creating those jobs for them. That is a failure in whatever Perry is doing, since he should be able to reproduce the creation of those jobs he purports were due to his policies when more people move into the state. This isn't happening though.

    Rick Perry and his Texas jobs boom: The whole story - Aug. 12, 2011

    The reason that jobs growth isn't keeping up is because the policies aren't working that well. Texas simply saw an increase due to circumstances of the time.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But this goes both ways. It means that they are not keeping up with the amount of people moving into the state Texas by creating those jobs for them. That is a failure in whatever Perry is doing, since he should be able to reproduce the creation of those jobs he purports were due to his policies when more people move into the state. This isn't happening though.

    Rick Perry and his Texas jobs boom: The whole story - Aug. 12, 2011

    The reason that jobs growth isn't keeping up is because the policies aren't working that well. Texas simply saw an increase due to circumstances of the time.
    Since Obama has been in office, TX has more people employed today than January 2009.

    Since Obama has been in office, TX has had a labor force increase

    Since Obama has been in office, TX has a growing population and more businesses moving to TX

    The question is why?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But this goes both ways. It means that they are not keeping up with the amount of people moving into the state Texas by creating those jobs for them. That is a failure in whatever Perry is doing, since he should be able to reproduce the creation of those jobs he purports were due to his policies when more people move into the state. This isn't happening though.

    Rick Perry and his Texas jobs boom: The whole story - Aug. 12, 2011

    The reason that jobs growth isn't keeping up is because the policies aren't working that well. Texas simply saw an increase due to circumstances of the time.
    Actually Perry does it for the citizens of that state currently, not those who migrate to Texas who are not citizens or even counted on the census. Perry has no control over who comes and goes but what he can do is create for those who already live in Texas and in that he has been successful.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Since Obama has been in office, TX has more people employed today than January 2009.

    Since Obama has been in office, TX has had a labor force increase

    Since Obama has been in office, TX has a growing population and more businesses moving to TX

    The question is why?
    THis just made me think. Has Perry done anything to adequately address the water needs of this burgeoning population. It is not exactly like we are a water rich state.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    THis just made me think. Has Perry done anything to adequately address the water needs of this burgeoning population. It is not exactly like we are a water rich state.
    Interesting and a great question.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Interesting and a great question.
    Someone posted about a desalination plant for Texas last night. But the price was pretty hefty at like $2.82 per gallon.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Actually Perry does it for the citizens of that state currently, not those who migrate to Texas who are not citizens or even counted on the census. Perry has no control over who comes and goes but what he can do is create for those who already live in Texas and in that he has been successful.
    No, he hasn't. He is claiming success from something that is a circumstance of the time.

    And some of those jobs are going away. It is likely that due to budget cuts, TX could lose up to about 100000 of those jobs that were created.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, he hasn't. He is claiming success from something that is a circumstance of the time.

    And some of those jobs are going away. It is likely that due to budget cuts, TX could lose up to about 100000 of those jobs that were created.
    Perry vs. Obama? Who would you vote for and why? You seem to be an expert on what is going on in TX. Do you care about the Obama results?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Actually Perry does it for the citizens of that state currently, not those who migrate to Texas who are not citizens or even counted on the census.
    I'm not talking about that either. Do you honestly think that it is only or even mostly illegal immigrants that are causing the rise in the population of TX? I don't.

    But any rise in illegal immigration in TX could also fall on the governor too. What is he doing to ensure that most, if not all, of those jobs that he is claiming to have created are going to only American citizens? Honestly, what is the point of claiming to have created all those jobs if most of the ones that are likely to be long-term are going to non-citizens?

    So if he is creating jobs that are going to American citizens, then he should also ensure that there are enough jobs being created for the amount of American citizens moving to the state of TX. This doesn't seem to be happening.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Perry vs. Obama? Who would you vote for and why? You seem to be an expert on what is going on in TX. Do you care about the Obama results?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    Obama, because he is the lesser of two evils. I look at what both of their records are, what they want to implement in the future, and how likely they are to get those ideas that I like actually enacted or not to get those ideas that I don't like enacted.

    Obama: can't stand Obamacare, but it is likely to go away via courts, otherwise, hopefully it can get gone another way within the next 5-10 years
    hate stance on immigration, one thing that scares me about keeping him in office
    economy issues, he isn't doing well, but neither is Congress or most of the states, I understand that most of the plans require so much compromise that they become useless or hurt more people than they help

    Perry: doesn't care about the poor or even, it seems, much about education
    seems to be all about giving his campaign donors jobs and contracts rather than actually caring about the people
    has no solid plan about the economy, just brings up his state's rankings and job creation as if he is completely responsible, which is not what the evidence suggests
    plans on trying to get multiple amendments passed to restrict freedoms, including an anti-SSM amendment (not likely to happen, but still possible if multiple amendments pushed at once)
    doesn't seem to hold science in any high regard, despite evidence to the contrary of his own beliefs (big issue with this)
    doesn't care about the environment (another hot topic of mine)

    Lesser of two evils definitely Obama.
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