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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here is some good information for you regarding Wal-Mart


    Walmartstores.com: Texas State Information

    As of June 2011, the average wage for regular, full-time hourly associates in Texas is $12.03 per hour (Walmart Discount Stores, Supercenters, and Neighborhood Markets). Additionally, eligible associates receive an annual incentive based on the company performance
    And I am aware of this. I honestly don't have an issue with WalMart. I probably should have used some other companies, but they were at the top of the list and I know that they do not pay all that well to most of their employees, having had several family members as employees of WalMart.

    However, there are a lot of other Fortune 500 companies out there that also pay at or just a little above minimum wage. To suggest that most of the minimum wage jobs are due to small businesses is foolish. Most of the big name supermarkets and fastfood restaurants are on that list and many of those employ personnel at minimum wage or just barely above.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You keep missing, the part about the mood of the electorate changing and being against excessive debt and spending. Keynsianism is completely broken and no amount of jiving will put it back together again.
    But the economic strategy in TX is not working any better if more of their citizens are being paid minimum wage or lower than anywhere else in the US, some of their local governments cannot even afford to pay their police force, and the state does not have enough money to meet their financial obligations without assistance from the US government or by borrowing money from other places. Plus, they have some of the lowest education and health rankings in the country, which are things that matter to a lot of people. To top it off, their governor wants to impose his morality on the country if elected President.

    The economy is important, but unless Perry can offer a plan that looks feasible to the Independents to improve the economy, then they are going to care less about what his plans for the economy are and look at the social issues. So far, his campaign is "look at TX, see I made it work here". Anyone who looks deeper though can see that it isn't nearly as simple as that, nor is it actually "working" that well.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And I am aware of this. I honestly don't have an issue with WalMart. I probably should have used some other companies, but they were at the top of the list and I know that they do not pay all that well to most of their employees, having had several family members as employees of WalMart.

    However, there are a lot of other Fortune 500 companies out there that also pay at or just a little above minimum wage. To suggest that most of the minimum wage jobs are due to small businesses is foolish. Most of the big name supermarkets and fastfood restaurants are on that list and many of those employ personnel at minimum wage or just barely above.
    I would love to know why minimum wage is even an issue with anyone. The marketplace should dictate wages, not a govt. entity. What do you think an unskilled, uneducated worker should make? Or how about a teen working his first job? Half of the minimum wage jobs are between the ages of 16-24 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics but again why is that an issue. Do you claim to know the finances and cost of living for all those making minimum wage? Wonder who held a gun to their head forcing them to take a minimum wage job? Seems to me that personal responsibility is a lost trait today in this country

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But the economic strategy in TX is not working any better if more of their citizens are being paid minimum wage or lower than anywhere else in the US, some of their local governments cannot even afford to pay their police force, and the state does not have enough money to meet their financial obligations without assistance from the US government or by borrowing money from other places. Plus, they have some of the lowest education and health rankings in the country, which are things that matter to a lot of people. To top it off, their governor wants to impose his morality on the country if elected President.

    The economy is important, but unless Perry can offer a plan that looks feasible to the Independents to improve the economy, then they are going to care less about what his plans for the economy are and look at the social issues. So far, his campaign is "look at TX, see I made it work here". Anyone who looks deeper though can see that it isn't nearly as simple as that, nor is it actually "working" that well.
    Have you paid any attention to the numbers posted? 550,000 Texans are being paid minimum wage or below out of a labor force of 12 MILLION. What percentage is that and who makes up those 550,000?

    Like far too many you assume that minimum wage goes to family bread winners which the vast majority aren't. the plan to improve the economy doesn't consist of what Obama is doing in creating the nanny state. That is why I love TX. Here you have to take personal responsibility for your actions and benefit from making the right choices. You aren't burdened by high taxes and have a very low cost of living. I will put the Perry record up against Obama's and Obama should be happy with the TX record for without it the U.S. Economy would be in much worse shape.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Let's see, TX has a net job gain since Obama took office and Obama has a net job loss.
    Oh, my.

    unemployment rate, 1/2009:

    Texas: 6.4%
    U.S.: 7.8%

    unemployment rate, 7/2011:

    Texas: 8.4%
    U.S.: 9.1%

    Net increase in unemployment:

    Texas: 31%
    U.S.: 17%


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    TX has a balanced budget and Obama has added 4 trillion to the debt.
    Hey now, if Obama had somewhere he could have gone to collect the money to cover the U.S. federal deficit the way Perry was able to cover Texas's deficit by collect federal money, then Obama could have balanced the federal budget.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Oh, my.

    unemployment rate, 1/2009:

    Texas: 6.4%
    U.S.: 7.8%

    unemployment rate, 7/2011:

    Texas: 8.4%
    U.S.: 9.1%

    Net increase in unemployment:

    Texas: 31%
    U.S.: 17%



    Hey now, if Obama had somewhere he could have gone to collect the money to cover the U.S. federal deficit the way Perry was able to cover Texas's deficit by collect federal money, then Obama could have balanced the federal budget.
    Since the TX unemployment rate is lower and the Labor Force is higher, Obama should be happy with the TX record for without it the U.S. Economy and his unemployment numbers would be in much worse shape.

    As for the state deficit, only in the liberal world apparently are Federal Mandates supposed to be funded by state taxpayers from state funds
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Oh, my.

    unemployment rate, 1/2009:

    Texas: 6.4%
    U.S.: 7.8%

    unemployment rate, 7/2011:

    Texas: 8.4%
    U.S.: 9.1%

    Net increase in unemployment:

    Texas: 31%
    U.S.: 17%



    Hey now, if Obama had somewhere he could have gone to collect the money to cover the U.S. federal deficit the way Perry was able to cover Texas's deficit by collect federal money, then Obama could have balanced the federal budget.
    Simply posting statistics without the full story behind it isn't right. I'll add just one more piece to the puzzle, when a county, state or country has a large influx of people moving in, it will no doubt affect the unemployment rate will it not? I am sure there are many more medicating circumstances as well.
    Map: Where Americans Are Moving - Forbes.com
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Bull****, as has been proven to the Sheik, my bet is that I have voted for more Democrats in my life than you have Republicans.
    The bull**** is all yours. What you proved was that until REagan, you were a Democrat who voted for which ever candidate put a "D" after their name and when you switched when Reagan was running, you have since voted for whomever puts an "R" after their name.

    That just goes to prove that results don't matter to you ... all that matters is that they put an "R" after their name. (prior to 30+ years ago, it was a "D"). Either way, you don't even bother to llok at results.

    You're like a cheapskate out to eat who reads the menu from right to left.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Then prove it, you can't and you know it. Keep trolling
    It's only what you've done for the last 30 plus years. I'd say it's pretty well proven that you don't care about results, all you care about is what letter the candidate places after their name.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's only what you've done for the last 30 plus years. I'd say it's pretty well proven that you don't care about results, all you care about is what letter the candidate places after their name.
    He is rooting for a "football" team.

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