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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'd personally prefer someone who isn't out to give their campaign contributors as many jobs and contracts as possible. Someone who isn't going to borrow their way to low taxes and an increase in low paying jobs. Someone who doesn't only support individual freedoms that he agrees with and seeks to deny some of those freedoms to others (SSM) with a constitutional amendment. Someone who doesn't refuse to believe many scientific facts, whether about the environment and how certain corporate actions can negatively affect it or concerning evolution or the fact that one of his citizens was most likely executed in error because a fire marshal was wrong in his assessment of a house fire.
    Not exactly sure who you are talking about because there a lot of people who could meet your definition although I will tell you this, regardless of who the Republicans nominate, any would be better than the incompetent we have in the WH right now.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Minimumwage is minimum wage. Not having health insurance is not having health insurance. Spending money, your tax dollars, is spending money, your tax dollars. Are you sure you have a clue?
    Here's a example lets say a Texan makes $7.50 per hour and a Bostonian makes $17.50 per hour doing the same job. Now each one wants to buy a house, in Texas a average house cost $80,000.00 and in Boston the average house cost $350,000.00. Now the difference between Texas and Massachusetts is taxes and fees, which rapes the consumer at every step in Massachusetts.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Perry has promoted an atmosphere that creates jobs in TX and is a great ambassador for seeking companies to move to TX. Keep demonizing TX but all that does is destroy your credibility.
    He didn't "create" that atmosphere. Many of the financial benefits that might encourage some companies to come to TX were already in place before Perry took office. And at least one of the things that brought business to TX was the natural resources under TX. All Perry has done is given jobs/contracts to companies who donate to his campaign.

    His state and many local governments within it are in debt and that debt is growing faster than that US's debt. In fact, part of the problem is his refusal to raise taxes, which causes a problem with not enough money to pay for all of the government's obligations. How the heck is he going to budget the federal government if he can't even properly balance his state's budget without borrowing from others and/or accepting federal money?
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Minimum wage jobs in TX according to BLS total 550,000 out of a 12 million labor force. What does BLS say the percentage of minimum wage jobs are in the country? How much do you think a teen should get for their first time job? Who are you or the govt. to tell private business what to pay its workers?

    I never paid minimum wage to any of my hourly employees because the market wouldn't bear it. In fact I paid over $10 an hour in some areas just to compete. Do you understand competition and the affects on wages? Further do you understand that some states have a higher minimum wage than the national minimum wage, i.e. California? Doesn't seem that you have a clue.
    Do read:


    But how much of the Texas jobs record stems from Perry?

    "The jockey in the horserace is very important, but which horse he gets on also matters," said economist Terry Clower, director of the Center for Economic Development and Research at the University of North Texas.

    Analysts credit a number of powerful economic factors as contributing to Texas' economic success. Among them: Rising oil and natural gas prices benefited resource-rich Texas; an infusion of Pentagon dollars into the state's large array of military installations and defense plants; booming trade from its Gulf ports to Mexico and China; the growth of public-sector jobs; a population boom; and a warm, sunny climate as old as Texas itself. All have contributed to the march of workers into the nation's second-largest state.

    Pia Orrenius, a senior economist at the Dallas Fed, told PolitiFact-Texas, a fact-checking enterprise, that the Texas economy has been roaring since 1990. "Long before Rick Perry ... we were talking about the great Texas economy," she said.

    Perry detractors also point out that many employees are low-wage immigrant workers from south of the border.

    Nor does every Texan share in the state's good times. About a million Texans are out of work, and about a half-million, many of them young and undereducated, draw minimum wage or less.



    Read more: Texas created lots of jobs; does Gov. Perry deserve the credit? - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Minimumwage is minimum wage. Not having health insurance is not having health insurance. Spending money, your tax dollars, is spending money, your tax dollars. Are you sure you have a clue?
    Educate yourself and for a change think with your brain.

    Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2010

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Here's a example lets say a Texan makes $7.50 per hour and a Bostonian makes $17.50 per hour doing the same job. Now each one wants to buy a house, in Texas a average house cost $80,000.00 and in Boston the average house cost $350,000.00. Now the difference between Texas and Massachusetts is taxes and fees, which rapes the consumer at every step in Massachusetts.
    Mississippi made the same argument to me once, however, as a non house buyer at the time, and minimum wage folks are ususally not house buyers, I did not find Mississippi cheap enough to make up for the low wage. We cannot dismiss the problems texas has. education, health care and other indicators are simply worse than elsewhere. Not to mention, they created mostly low wage jobs for immigrant workers.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do read:


    But how much of the Texas jobs record stems from Perry?

    "The jockey in the horserace is very important, but which horse he gets on also matters," said economist Terry Clower, director of the Center for Economic Development and Research at the University of North Texas.

    Analysts credit a number of powerful economic factors as contributing to Texas' economic success. Among them: Rising oil and natural gas prices benefited resource-rich Texas; an infusion of Pentagon dollars into the state's large array of military installations and defense plants; booming trade from its Gulf ports to Mexico and China; the growth of public-sector jobs; a population boom; and a warm, sunny climate as old as Texas itself. All have contributed to the march of workers into the nation's second-largest state.

    Pia Orrenius, a senior economist at the Dallas Fed, told PolitiFact-Texas, a fact-checking enterprise, that the Texas economy has been roaring since 1990. "Long before Rick Perry ... we were talking about the great Texas economy," she said.

    Perry detractors also point out that many employees are low-wage immigrant workers from south of the border.

    Nor does every Texan share in the state's good times. About a million Texans are out of work, and about a half-million, many of them young and undereducated, draw minimum wage or less.



    Read more: Texas created lots of jobs; does Gov. Perry deserve the credit? - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com
    Perry is governor and gets credit or blame, just like Obama. Fact remains the atmosphere in TX is well suited for business growth and that is happening here. Whether you like Perry or not is irrelevant, TX is creating jobs whereas Obama has a net job loss after 2 1/2 years in office. TX has more people working today than when Obama took office and Obama has less today than when he took office. That is reality and something liberals want to demonize. Job creation is what this country needs and "Your" President is incompetent.

    Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2010

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Educate yourself and for a change think with your brain.

    Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2010
    This is not disputed. Why do you think this disputes what I'm saying?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He didn't "create" that atmosphere. Many of the financial benefits that might encourage some companies to come to TX were already in place before Perry took office. And at least one of the things that brought business to TX was the natural resources under TX. All Perry has done is given jobs/contracts to companies who donate to his campaign.

    His state and many local governments within it are in debt and that debt is growing faster than that US's debt. In fact, part of the problem is his refusal to raise taxes, which causes a problem with not enough money to pay for all of the government's obligations. How the heck is he going to budget the federal government if he can't even properly balance his state's budget without borrowing from others and/or accepting federal money?
    Perry didn't screw it up, Obama did, Obamacare, regulations, threats of higher taxes, and demonization of profit generation.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Perry is governor and gets credit or blame, just like Obama. Fact remains the atmosphere in TX is well suited for business growth and that is happening here. Whether you like Perry or not is irrelevant, TX is creating jobs whereas Obama has a net job loss after 2 1/2 years in office. TX has more people working today than when Obama took office and Obama has less today than when he took office. That is reality and something liberals want to demonize. Job creation is what this country needs and "Your" President is incompetent.

    Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2010
    Sure, you can pay business to work there (spending tax dollars, your tax dollars). We can do that nationally as well, and use immigrant workers, if that is what you want. But you miss the point of what I linked. Perry does get all the credit for what is going on in Texas.
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 08-21-11 at 02:54 PM.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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