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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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SlackMaster said:
That might make for a convincing argument if he didn't send the letter urging congress to pass the 800 billion TARP bill.
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You know what, you are right. I either had forgotten or whatever about this point. Thanks. Any support I have for Perry (for the record, my user name has absolutely nothing to do with him) has greatly diminished.

I was still concerned over his immigration stance but combined with this doesn't make him real appealing.
 
PeteEU said:
Only reason Texas elects so many "conservatives" is because of Tom Delay and his gerrymandering of the districts in Texas.. with the help of Rick Perry. Ask the people in Rick Perry's home town about that and how they lost their representation due to it.
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Perry was a Democrat at one time, So was Ronald Reagan, so what I. We outgrew it when we finally realized what a bankrupt ideology it is.
 
Conservative said:
Perry was a Democrat at one time, So was Ronald Reagan, so what I. We outgrew it when we finally realized what a bankrupt ideology it is.
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I guess the Southern Strategy worked, then.
 
Phys251 said:
I guess the Southern Strategy worked, then.
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I believe logic and common sense kicked in more so than the Southern strategy. Don't you think it is a little arrogant on your part claiming that people aren't smart enough to make up their own minds and require someone else to do the thinking for them. Sounds like you have been a liberal way too long but it does show what you think of the individual. No wonder support for liberalism is declining.
 
Conservative said:
I believe logic and common sense kicked in more so than the Southern strategy. Don't you think it is a little arrogant on your part claiming that people aren't smart enough to make up their own minds and require someone else to do the thinking for them. Sounds like you have been a liberal way too long but it does show what you think of the individual. No wonder support for liberalism is declining.
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LOL, you're already flaming me? And dodging the question? Typical. But I guess that means that I was right, that the Southern Strategy worked on you.
 
Conservative said:
Texas operates on a 2 year budget, not a one year budget and the deficit was projected at 25 billion. The budget was balanced without tax increases and the stimulus money accepted was hardly 97%. Nice spin and distortion.
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I guess the National Conference of State Legislatures is full of crap then?

Do you have anything to back up those statements?
 
Conservative said:
Texas operates on a 2 year budget, not a one year budget and the deficit was projected at 25 billion. The budget was balanced without tax increases and the stimulus money accepted was hardly 97%. Nice spin and distortion.
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Stimulus filled 97% of the gap between spending cuts and the remaining deficit, which otherwise would have been filled by tapping the state's rainy day fund. It's a good thing they didn't tap the fund, because they're going to need all of it plus another $5 billion in additional cuts next time around.
 
Phys251 said:
LOL, you're already flaming me? And dodging the question? Typical. But I guess that means that I was right, that the Southern Strategy worked on you.
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What Southern strategy? Confusing people with facts, logic, and common sense? How can anyone look at these numbers 2 1/2 years after taking office and call liberalism a success?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings and now 26% supporting his handling of the economy
 
Conservative said:
What Southern strategy? Confusing people with facts, logic, and common sense? How can anyone look at these numbers 2 1/2 years after taking office and call liberalism a success?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings and now 26% supporting his handling of the economy
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They don't look so bad when you consider where he started.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
 
AdamT said:
Stimulus filled 97% of the gap between spending cuts and the remaining deficit, which otherwise would have been filled by tapping the state's rainy day fund. It's a good thing they didn't tap the fund, because they're going to need all of it plus another $5 billion in additional cuts next time around.
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You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. You claimed that the stimulus bailout paid for 97% of the TX deficit, that was of course a complete distortion. You also ignore that Texans are taxpayers and part of the budget deficit was due to Medicaid expansion and unemployment extensions forced by the Federal Govt. Should Texas taxpayers fund those extensions?
 
AdamT said:
Stimulus filled 97% of the gap between spending cuts and the remaining deficit, which otherwise would have been filled by tapping the state's rainy day fund. It's a good thing they didn't tap the fund, because they're going to need all of it plus another $5 billion in additional cuts next time around.
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It is expected now due to the drought Texas agriculture is going to have 5.2 billion in losses. That is going to be a hard hit for the State:(
 
AdamT said:
They don't look so bad when you consider where he started.

And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month, GDP shrinking at 6+% per year, financial institutions teetering on the edge of collapse, trillion+ deficit.... Nice improvement.
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Right, those results are outstanding especially considering the cost to generate those numbers that you say are so much better. why not just write a check to every American for 1 million dollars? Unbelievable lack of logic and common sense.
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 39% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings and now 26% supporting his handling of the economy
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Just curious. You keep pasting this into your posts as if we haven't responded to it already. It hasn't convinced us thus far. Do you think posting it a tenth time will convince us?
 
SlackMaster said:
Just curious. You keep pasting this into your posts as if we haven't responded to it already. It hasn't convinced us thus far. Do you think posting it a tenth time will convince us?
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You are way off on that 10th estimate.
 
winston53660 said:
It is expected now due to the drought Texas agriculture is going to have 5.2 billion in losses. That is going to be a hard hit for the State:(
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Which is odd because Perry really stepped up to the plate as a leader and asked everyone to pray for rain back in April.

Still no rain. What gives?

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SlackMaster said:
Just curious. You keep pasting this into your posts as if we haven't responded to it already. It hasn't convinced us thus far. Do you think posting it a tenth time will convince us?
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Don't expect it to change your mind, liberalism is a disease that infects the mind destroying logic and common sense replacing it purely with feelings.
 
SlackMaster said:
Which is odd because Perry really stepped up to the plate as a leader and asked everyone to pray for rain back in April.

Still no rain. What gives?

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Bob knows the way, Bob knows all, Bob knows the value of a dollar!:2razz:
 
Conservative said:
Don't expect it to change your mind, liberalism is a disease that infects the mind destroying logic and common sense replacing it purely with feelings.
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Didn't you just get done chastising someone for being condescending?
 
SlackMaster said:
Didn't you just get done chastising someone for being condescending?
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Trying to figure out what motivates people like you to support a failed ideology and one that even demonizes previous liberals. Seems that the previous liberals never spent enough or spent it in the right areas so we need a new group of liberals to correct the problem. Why is it that liberalism never corrects a problem? Most of the 14.5 trillion dollar debt comes from failed social programs like the Great Society and New Deal because it replaces personal responsibility with Federal Taxpayer responsibility. that destroys incentive and has led to the mess we have today.

GW Bush wasn't a Conservative in all areas and spent too much money but that doesn't give Obama the right to put his spending on steroids. I had a choice in 2000 with Bush vs. Gore and in 2004 with Bush vs Kerry. Which candidate would any conservative vote for? I am not happy with Bush's results but to continue to demonize him today 2 1/2 years after leaving office is nothing more than a diversion that serves no purpose. Liberalism continues to be tried and continues to fail because it ignores human behavior and incentive.
 
I bet the dem's are loving this. Again, until I actually see Perry get the GOP nod at the national convention, I doubt he will be the GOP candidate. Granted, over the last decade or so, everything the GOP has touched has turned to **** but I don't think they are stupid enough to run Perry, UNLESS, they have already conceeded behind closed doors that they have no candidate that can take Obama and they are just going to offer up a sacrificial lamb that is dispensible. In which case, either Palin, Bachmann or Perry is capable of that job. I doubt they want to hang a loss on a serious contender they can utilize in the future.
 
Captain America said:
I bet the dem's are loving this. Again, until I actually see Perry get the GOP nod at the national convention, I doubt he will be the GOP candidate. Granted, over the last decade or so, everything the GOP has touched has turned to **** but I don't think they are stupid enough to run Perry, UNLESS, they have already conceeded behind closed doors that they have no candidate that can take Obama and they are just going to offer up a sacrificial lamb that is dispensible. In which case, either Palin, Bachmann or Perry is capable of that job. I doubt they want to hang a loss on a serious contender they can utilize in the future.
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i think that's a good point. independents are far more likely to vote for romney.
 
Captain America said:
I bet the dem's are loving this. Again, until I actually see Perry get the GOP nod at the national convention, I doubt he will be the GOP candidate. Granted, over the last decade or so, everything the GOP has touched has turned to **** but I don't think they are stupid enough to run Perry, UNLESS, they have already conceeded behind closed doors that they have no candidate that can take Obama and they are just going to offer up a sacrificial lamb that is dispensible. In which case, either Palin, Bachmann or Perry is capable of that job. I doubt they want to hang a loss on a serious contender they can utilize in the future.
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If the Republicans have someone who can't win now, given the state of the economy, I can't imagine they would have much chance in the future.
 
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