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Conservative said:
Look it up
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The story of today’s deficits starts in January 2001, as President Bill Clinton was leaving office. The Congressional Budget Office estimated then that the government would run an average annual surplus of more than $800 billion a year from 2009 to 2012. Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years.
You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama.

Economic Scene - How the U.S. Surplus Became a Deficit - NYTimes.com
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
By those figures, GDP under Obama for this year is up 3.1% and 3.7% respectively.
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
winston53660 said:
The story of today’s deficits starts in January 2001, as President Bill Clinton was leaving office. The Congressional Budget Office estimated then that the government would run an average annual surplus of more than $800 billion a year from 2009 to 2012. Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years.
You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama.

Economic Scene - How the U.S. Surplus Became a Deficit - NYTimes.com
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Sure beats -9% GDP and loosing 700k jobs per mnth.
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Nope you're lying. I'm looking at the BEA's website right now ...

http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdpchg.xls

And under the column heading of, "GDP percent change based on current dollars", it shows:

2011q1: 3.1
2011q2: 3.7
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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AdamT said:
Do you really not get this?


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Conservative said:
Just like you cannot get it through your head that the fiscal year of the U.S. runs from Oct-Sept...
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Why no answer, Con?

What does that chart have to do with the fiscal year?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Nope you're lying. I'm looking at the BEA's website right now ...

http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdpchg.xls

And under the column heading of, "GDP percent change based on current dollars", it shows:

2011q1: 3.1
2011q2: 3.7
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Stop with the claims of lies and go to the BEA site

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent] Seasonally adjusted at annual rates Bureau of Economic Analysis Last Revised on: July 29, 2011 - Next Release Date August 26, 2011

2010
1st 3.9
2nd 3.8
3rd 2.5
4th 2.3

2011
1st .4
2nd 1.3

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm
 
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Conservative said:
Stop with the claims of lies and go to the BEA site

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent] Seasonally adjusted at annual rates Bureau of Economic Analysis Last Revised on: July 29, 2011 - Next Release Date August 26, 2011

2010
1st 3.9
2nd 3.8
3rd 2.5
4th 2.3

2011
1st .4
2nd 1.3
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Whoooaaa there, why are you referencing the numbers under the, "GDP percent change based on chained 2005 dollars"?

Just a moment ago, you posted GDP numbers for Reagan and you used the numbers under the column heading, "GDP in billions of current dollars".

Conservative said:
No they don't Reagan never had a -9% GDP Growth, pay attention

Reagan GDP Growth by year

1980 2,788.10
1981 3,126.80
1982 3253.20
1983 3534.60
1984 3930.90
1985 4217.50
1986 4460.10
1987 4736.40
1988 5100.40
1989 5482.10
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Why do you use "current dollars" for Reagan but "chained 2005 dollars" for Obama?

How dishonest of you to cherry-pick data that you like best.



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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Scared??

:lamo :lamo :lamo
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News Release: Gross Domestic Product

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Conservative said:
Stop with the claims of lies and go to the BEA site

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent] Seasonally adjusted at annual rates Bureau of Economic Analysis Last Revised on: July 29, 2011 - Next Release Date August 26, 2011

2010
1st 3.9
2nd 3.8
3rd 2.5
4th 2.3

2011
1st .4
2nd 1.3

News Release: Gross Domestic Product
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I am giving you the link to the BEA website.

http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdpchg.xls

Under the heading, "GDP percent change based on current dollars," which is the column you used when you posted GDP numbers during Reagan's presidency, it shows:

2011q1: 3.1
2011q2: 3.7

How come you won't answer my question ... ?

Why do you use "current dollars" for Reagan but "chained 2005 dollars" for Obama?
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
I am giving you the link to the BEA website.

http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdpchg.xls

Under the heading, "GDP percent change based on current dollars," which is the column you used when you posted GDP numbers during Reagan's presidency, it shows:

2011q1: 3.1
2011q2: 3.7

How come you won't answer my question ... ?

Why do you use "current dollars" for Reagan but "chained 2005 dollars" for Obama?
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Conservative said:
Bush is responsible for the Bush budget, not the supplementals added to it. Budgets don't have to be spent but Obama had not problem spending the money
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Bush never put the cost of Iraq and Afghanistan in his budget and so the budget he prepared for 2009 didn't either. So part of the supplimental was for normal operations and part was for the surge. Get it, con?
 
pbrauer said:
Bush never put the cost of Iraq and Afghanistan in his budget and so the budget he prepared for 2009 didn't either. So part of the supplimental was for normal operations and part was for the surge. Get it, con?
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What do you think is in the defense budget which was over 600 billion dollars? The Iraq War was winding down in 2009 and it was Obama that ramped up Afghanistan with the surge. How is that working out for us?
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Here let me translate that for everyone

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winston53660 said:
Here let me translate that for everyone

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Hey! It looks like Conservative ran off without ever answering ...

Why do you use "current dollars" for Reagan but "chained 2005 dollars" for Obama?

That's ok, I'll ask him again tomorrow. Maybe I'll have better luck extricating an answer then.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Hey! It looks like Conservative ran off without ever answering ...

Why do you use "current dollars" for Reagan but "chained 2005 dollars" for Obama?

That's ok, I'll ask him again tomorrow. Maybe I'll have better luck extricating an answer then.
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I'm fairly sure he is looking in.
 
winston53660 said:
I'm fairly sure he is looking in.
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As I just posted, you need to become the Obama campaign manager because it looks like he needs your bs because the public isn't buying what you claim to be the Obama results. Let me remind you, Bush isn't on the 2012 ballot but the way Obama is going Bush will have a much higher approval rating than Obama. Looks like Obama is having trouble now with the Republican candidates. I remember you asking who is going to beat Obama, another few weeks and all of these candidates will beat him. Romney is doing it now.


Obama in Close Race Against Romney, Perry, Bachmann, Paul
 
Conservative said:
As I just posted, you need to become the Obama campaign manager because it looks like he needs your bs because the public isn't buying what you claim to be the Obama results. Let me remind you, Bush isn't on the 2012 ballot but the way Obama is going Bush will have a much higher approval rating than Obama. Looks like Obama is having trouble now with the Republican candidates. I remember you asking who is going to beat Obama, another few weeks and all of these candidates will beat him. Romney is doing it now.


Obama in Close Race Against Romney, Perry, Bachmann, Paul
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Are ever going to answer Sheik's query?
 
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