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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, really? The Presidential election is normally considered an election cycle but if you want to go by the 2010, how accurate was Rasmussen in predicting the GOP Landslide? Again, you are wrong but just cannot admit it. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?
    If it makes you feel better, Rasmussen was accurate in '08 and very inaccurate in the last national election. Everyone predicted a Republican landslide but Rasmussen predicted a much larger landslide than we actually saw.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Gallup registers popularity, Rasmussen surveys likely voter thus is always near or at the top of polling accuracy when it comes to election results.
    Dude get a clue

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Gallup registers popularity, Rasmussen surveys likely voter thus is always near or at the top of polling accuracy when it comes to election results.
    Rasmussen was one of the LEAST accurate polling firms in the country in 2010. That is a fact.

    "Criticism

    [edit] Nate Silver

    Rasmussen Reports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 2010, Nate Silver of the New York Times blog FiveThirtyEight wrote the article “Is Rasmussen Reports biased?”, in which he mostly defended Rasmussen from allegations of bias. [22]. However, by later in the year, Rasmussen's polling results diverged notably from other mainstream pollsters, which Silver labeled a 'house effect.'[23] He went on to explore other factors which may have explained the effect such as the use of a likely voter model,[24] and claimed that Rasmussen conducted its polls in a way that excluded the majority of the population from answering. [25] Silver also criticized Rasmussen for often only polling races months before the election, which prevented them from having polls just before the election which could be assessed for accuracy.[clarification needed] In response, he wrote that he was “looking appropriate ways to punish pollsters” like Rasmussen in his pollster rating models who don’t poll in the final days before an election. [26]

    After Election night that year, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model. [27] He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate Race, which Rasmussen showed the incumbent 13 points ahead, where he in actuality won by 53[28] - a difference of 40 points, or "the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.[clarification needed]"[27]

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    TIME has described Rasmussen Reports as a "conservative-leaning polling group".[29] According to Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who co-developed Pollster.com,[30] “He [Rasmussen] polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod." Franklin also said: "It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”[31]

    The Center For Public Integrity has claimed that Scott Rasmussen was a paid consultant for the 2004 George W. Bush campaign.[32] The Washington Post reported "... the Bush reelection campaign used a feature on his site that allowed customers to program their own polls. Rasmussen asserted that he never wrote any of the questions or assisted Republicans in any way..." The do-it-yourself polling service is used by Democrats as well as Republicans today through a company that licenses Rasmussen’s methodology.

    Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[33][34] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[35] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"[34]"

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gallup registers popularity, Rasmussen surveys likely voter thus is always near or at the top of polling accuracy when it comes to election results.
    Hey look here is a clue

    /eviltwinconspiracyme

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If it makes you feel better, Rasmussen was accurate in '08 and very inaccurate in the last national election. Everyone predicted a Republican landslide but Rasmussen predicted a much larger landslide than we actually saw.
    Non Presidential elections are very hard to predict because it is much harder to determine the voter turnout and since Rasmussen relies on likely voters the poll results are going to be less accurate for any pollster that uses likely voters, but to say that Rasmussen is near or at the bottom is totally inaccurate and just shows your biases and where you get your information. No one could project the labor turnout at the last moment in Nevada or the turnout in California. Those were two of his biggest national election impact mistakes. To call him a Republican leaning pollster comes from DNC talking points where the DNC again wants to destroy anyone that dares posting information negative to a Democrat

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hey look here is a clue

    /eviltwinconspiracyme
    Hey, look here ,another Winston attempt at a gotcha moment, FAIL

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    The bad news that comes from the massive population growth in TX is that more liberals are infiltrating the state and begin trying to convert the state into the failed state they moved from. Wonder what it is that makes liberals so loyal to their failed ideology?

    With any luck at all conservative, the influx of liberals into Texas will raise the standards of the Texas school system.

    Who knows, with enough libs moving into the lone star they might even raise the standard up to Massachusetts levels…with enough taxes.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Non Presidential elections are very hard to predict because it is much harder to determine the voter turnout and since Rasmussen relies on likely voters the poll results are going to be less accurate for any pollster that uses likely voters, but to say that Rasmussen is near or at the bottom is totally inaccurate and just shows your biases and where you get your information. No one could project the labor turnout at the last moment in Nevada or the turnout in California. Those were two of his biggest national election impact mistakes. To call him a Republican leaning pollster comes from DNC talking points where the DNC again wants to destroy anyone that dares posting information negative to a Democrat
    Isn't all that spinning making you dizzy? It is simply a dead-nuts fact that Rasmussen was among the least accurate polling firms in the last national election.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hey, look here ,another Winston attempt at a gotcha moment, FAIL
    That was a "gotcha" attempt? Well if you say so........



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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Rasmussen was one of the LEAST accurate polling firms in the country in 2010. That is a fact.

    "Criticism

    [edit] Nate Silver

    Rasmussen Reports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 2010, Nate Silver of the New York Times blog FiveThirtyEight wrote the article “Is Rasmussen Reports biased?”, in which he mostly defended Rasmussen from allegations of bias. [22]. However, by later in the year, Rasmussen's polling results diverged notably from other mainstream pollsters, which Silver labeled a 'house effect.'[23] He went on to explore other factors which may have explained the effect such as the use of a likely voter model,[24] and claimed that Rasmussen conducted its polls in a way that excluded the majority of the population from answering. [25] Silver also criticized Rasmussen for often only polling races months before the election, which prevented them from having polls just before the election which could be assessed for accuracy.[clarification needed] In response, he wrote that he was “looking appropriate ways to punish pollsters” like Rasmussen in his pollster rating models who don’t poll in the final days before an election. [26]

    After Election night that year, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model. [27] He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate Race, which Rasmussen showed the incumbent 13 points ahead, where he in actuality won by 53[28] - a difference of 40 points, or "the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.[clarification needed]"[27]

    [edit] Other

    TIME has described Rasmussen Reports as a "conservative-leaning polling group".[29] According to Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who co-developed Pollster.com,[30] “He [Rasmussen] polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod." Franklin also said: "It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”[31]

    The Center For Public Integrity has claimed that Scott Rasmussen was a paid consultant for the 2004 George W. Bush campaign.[32] The Washington Post reported "... the Bush reelection campaign used a feature on his site that allowed customers to program their own polls. Rasmussen asserted that he never wrote any of the questions or assisted Republicans in any way..." The do-it-yourself polling service is used by Democrats as well as Republicans today through a company that licenses Rasmussen’s methodology.

    Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[33][34] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[35] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"[34]"
    Oh, I see, the opinion pieces that demonize anyone that posts data contrary to the DNC talking points is accurate in your world. Non Presidential elections again are difficult to measure because of their local nature. How about comparing other polls to Rasmussen and check their accuracy on non Presidential election results. No, that wouldn't suit your agenda but to make a statement that Rasmussen is at or near the bottom in accuracy is a distortion if not a down right lie as Presidential results vs. their polls show. Basing your statement on 2010 is typical of a liberal

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