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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Strictly based on sentence parsing, it sure looked that way.



    You chose the source; you defend it. I specifically asked for NON-PARTISAN sources. Now can you provide one that irrefutably states that many Texans are uninsured due to choice and not cost?
    Where is your non partisan source that shows how many Texans in that Kaiser study CHOOSE not to buy healthcare? Does it really matter? why do you think healthcare is a Federal Responsibility since it is the states that pay for ER costs and most of the healthcare expenses. Maybe the govt. ought to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse in the current Medicare program as well as others and focus on their main responsibility, protecting this country.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, it is the governments business since the alternative is people taking something from the government and not paying for it. Your stance is like a shoplifter saying, "who are you to tell me I have to pay for these DVDs?"
    Again, you don't get it, who are those abusing the ER's taking money from, The Federal Taxpayer or State taxpayer? Who is saying someone in need of healthcare shouldn't have to pay for it? What part of all the programs available don't you understand. Why is it you believe in bigger Federal govt. with a 14.6 trillion dollar debt?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Yep, isn't that what Perry wanted to do? Maybe the Federal govt. should stop dictating to states how they should handle insurance

    Yep, the feds should kick the money grubben insurance companies out and go national like the rest of civilized society.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yep, the feds should kick the money grubben insurance companies out and go national like the rest of civilized society.
    Exactly, we need one big central govt. for the world. I always wanted to be like Greece and all those other socialist utopian countries with their universal healthcare and long waits for services. Works for me

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Exactly, we need one big central govt. for the world. I always wanted to be like Greece and all those other socialist utopian countries with their universal healthcare and long waits for services. Works for me
    Welcome to the bright side bro.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Again, you don't get it, who are those abusing the ER's taking money from, The Federal Taxpayer or State taxpayer? Who is saying someone in need of healthcare shouldn't have to pay for it? What part of all the programs available don't you understand. Why is it you believe in bigger Federal govt. with a 14.6 trillion dollar debt?
    How many times do we have to explain this to you before it seaps through your thick skull? Everyone pays for free health care except the people who receive it. It causes tax receipts to go down. It causes insurance prices to go up. It increases the cost of Medicare and Medicaid. But by all means, stand on the side of the free riders. Perhaps personal responsiblity isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    How many times do we have to explain this to you before it seaps through your thick skull? Everyone pays for free health care except the people who receive it. It causes tax receipts to go down. It causes insurance prices to go up. It increases the cost of Medicare and Medicaid. But by all means, stand on the side of the free riders. Perhaps personal responsiblity isn't all it's cracked up to be.
    Obviously with you it is the government that has to be the parent and force people into personal responsibility issues. Did your parents create a 14.6 trillion dollar debt? Suggest you think for a change and ask yourself who is proposing national healthcare, ones that promote personal responsibility or ones that promote govt. responsibility?

    You really hate for profit businesses, don't you? Is that what you were taught or are being taught in school? There are a lot of reasons for rises in insurance prices but you want to focus on the free healthcare that some get. How does Obamacare reduce healthcare costs? What gives the Federal Govt. the right to tell you what to buy? Are there just certain freedoms that you support, like freedom of choice to murder a baby but not freedom of choice to buy or not buy health insurance.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ZIRP4EVA View Post
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    Not a shock since he can appeal to virtually every faction of the Republican base.
    But very revealing as to how weak the GOP field of candidates really is that someone can throw their hat in the ring and only 3 days later become the front runner.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Obviously with you it is the government that has to be the parent and force people into personal responsibility issues. Did your parents create a 14.6 trillion dollar debt? Suggest you think for a change and ask yourself who is proposing national healthcare, ones that promote personal responsibility or ones that promote govt. responsibility?

    You really hate for profit businesses, don't you? Is that what you were taught or are being taught in school? There are a lot of reasons for rises in insurance prices but you want to focus on the free healthcare that some get. How does Obamacare reduce healthcare costs? What gives the Federal Govt. the right to tell you what to buy? Are there just certain freedoms that you support, like freedom of choice to murder a baby but not freedom of choice to buy or not buy health insurance.
    Again, you refuse to address the real issue, which is that you are fighting for the right of people to avoid taking responsibility without having to pay any kind of penalty. Stop with the meaningless diversion.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again, you refuse to address the real issue, which is that you are fighting for the right of people to avoid taking responsibility without having to pay any kind of penalty. Stop with the meaningless diversion.
    You think it is the government's role to force taking personal responsibility? Who forces you to take personal responsibiltiy? That is a typical leftwing response. The way to force people to take personal responsibility is to prosecute those that violate the laws or don't pay for services rendered. Instead we seem to have bleeding heart liberals who don't seem to understand personal responsibility lecturing the rest of us on how govt. needs to take on that role. Seems to make sense to you but not me.

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