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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    And your point? Of course it is going to the Federal Govt. another part of the Federal Ponzi scheme and then complaints about not having enough money. Medicare is collected just like SS and the supposed to be paid out when you retire and in Medicare's case turn 65. Why are both on budget?
    The point is that you are taking a stand AGAINST personal responsibility. Why? Because even though it was an idea put forth by Republicans, Democrats adopted it. That means you have to oppose it even if it's a good idea you would otherwise support.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Now you're calling it a ponzi scheme... lol. The federal is taking from the state's funds now?
    What do you call it when the govt. takes money today, puts it on budget meaning that it can be spent for anything they want and then when you retire or turn 65 don't have that money but take it from current "contributions?"

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    The point is that you are taking a stand AGAINST personal responsibility. Why? Because even though it was an idea put forth by Republicans, Democrats adopted it. That means you have to oppose it even if it's a good idea you would otherwise support.
    I have never taken a stance against personal responsibility nor will I. There is no good idea regarding mandatory healthcare forced by the Federal govt. Do you have the same expenses in your state as I have in TX? Do you have the same quality of life in your state as I have in mine? Do you understand what personal responsibilty means?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have never taken a stance against personal responsibility nor will I. There is no good idea regarding mandatory healthcare forced by the Federal govt. Do you have the same expenses in your state as I have in TX? Do you have the same quality of life in your state as I have in mine? Do you understand what personal responsibilty means?
    It has nothing to do with mandatory health care. It is just a means of ensuring that people who can afford insurance will buy insurance so they can't sponge off state AND federal taxpayers. You are standing up for the right of slackers to sponge off the system.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    You are standing up for the right of slackers to sponge off the system.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It has nothing to do with mandatory health care. It is just a means of ensuring that people who can afford insurance will buy insurance so they can't sponge off state AND federal taxpayers. You are standing up for the right of slackers to sponge off the system.
    You miss the point, that isn't the Federal Governments role to tell people what they can or cannot buy or need. Try buying something on credit and not paying for it, see what happens. Why is healthcare any different

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Where did I say that Reagan was a Democrat in 1988?
    Um. In post #268.

    "Rick Perry was also a Democrat in 1988, Reagan was a Democrat as was I."

    Did you mean some other year? Or were you speaking metaphorically, that Reagan's Republicanism is analogous to Democratism of today?

    Yes, we do need a tropical storm but not a hurricane. I survived Ike.
    Yeah. A big, huge TS would be perfect. Or if it is a hurricane, no worse than a Cat-1, please, and may it hit land in the middle of nowhere.

    Glad you made it through Ike. A couple hundred people were not so fortunate.

    This may help you on the uninsured particular the part about programs available that don't require people to buy healthcare insurance

    Many Texans Uninsured By Choice
    That might be true, but I specifically asked for a nonbiased source. NCPA isn't.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Um. In post #268.

    "Rick Perry was also a Democrat in 1988, Reagan was a Democrat as was I."

    Did you mean some other year? Or were you speaking metaphorically, that Reagan's Republicanism is analogous to Democratism of today?



    Yeah. A big, huge TS would be perfect. Or if it is a hurricane, no worse than a Cat-1, please, and may it hit land in the middle of nowhere.

    Glad you made it through Ike. A couple hundred people were not so fortunate.



    That might be true, but I specifically asked for a nonbiased source. NCPA isn't.
    Un, that is why I put a comma after 1988. Do you believe I thought Reagan was a Democrat in 1988? Wow

    I really doubt than any stats presented to you by me are going to be accepted. Why aren't you asking Kaiser to break down those numbers into people who CHOOSE not to purchase healthcare? Texans know that healthcare is their personal responsibility and also know there are programs available for the poor outside of private insurance.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Un, that is why I put a comma after 1988. Do you believe I thought Reagan was a Democrat in 1988? Wow
    Strictly based on sentence parsing, it sure looked that way.

    I really doubt than any stats presented to you by me are going to be accepted. Why aren't you asking Kaiser to break down those numbers into people who CHOOSE not to purchase healthcare? Texans know that healthcare is their personal responsibility and also know there are programs available for the poor outside of private insurance.
    You chose the source; you defend it. I specifically asked for NON-PARTISAN sources. Now can you provide one that irrefutably states that many Texans are uninsured due to choice and not cost?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You miss the point, that isn't the Federal Governments role to tell people what they can or cannot buy or need. Try buying something on credit and not paying for it, see what happens. Why is healthcare any different
    Yes, it is the governments business since the alternative is people taking something from the government and not paying for it. Your stance is like a shoplifter saying, "who are you to tell me I have to pay for these DVDs?"

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