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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that Romney implemented the program in MA, not nationally and knows that states have that responsibility. Seems either you cannot convince your state to do what MA does so you want to inflict your ideology on everyone else in the country.
    You do realize that Romney ran on an individual mandate in 2008, right?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Like I said, hospitals write off free health care which reduces their tax obligations. That costs the federal government money.
    Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Better taking a reading course, you asked why TX has such a high rate of uninsured and I gave you a reason, when 50% of the employees are offered insurance and CHOOSE not to take it that is a reason that the uninsured number is higher. Nothing changes the mind of a liberal ideologue where personal responsibility doesn't exist

    Oh, by the way many of those children are insured by the SCHPs program and medicaid. Interesting how you ignore that reality
    Continuing to dodge the questions, choosing instead to insult me? Nice. Oh well, at least you concede that I was right.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?
    Are you trying to say that hospitals don't have to file federal tax returns?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Continuing to dodge the questions, choosing instead to insult me? Nice. Oh well, at least you concede that I was right.
    Your post asked a question, why is TX ranked so low on the insured. I answered it, you didn't like the answer and now claim victory. LOL, enjoy your invisible prize

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?
    Uhmmm misleading as usual. Medicaid is a 50 50 program state / fed. Medicare is a fed program. Were these to be taken away practically every hospital would close.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Not arguing against it at all, just the Federal Govt. paying for it. ER charges are state charges, not Federal charges. The people of TX don't pay for your ER charges nor do you pay for ours
    Do you understand how medicaid works? The federal government tells the hospital what they'll pay for and what price they'll pay... the rest of the bill just goes unpaid. That hurts hospitals and hurts their ability to pay their overhead... sometimes doctors will just order unnecessary tests on people with medicaid and insurance so they'll get some more money out of them. If everybody had health insurance, and everybody paid their bill the cost of medical care would come down significantly in this country.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    People have a choice to live in a particular state, not much of a choice to move out of the country. The Federal Constitution doesn't give that power to Congress since ER charges are state charges, not Federal charges


    You have a choice to move out this country.... lol

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Are you trying to say that hospitals don't have to file federal tax returns?
    Just like all businesses that deduct bad debt from their expenses. a drop in the bucket in the overall picture. Think the govt deserves the bad debt created by illegal immigration in this country? Nice spin though which ignores the basic point, the taxpayers of the state, not the Federal Taxpayer funds ER expenses.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I like the way that article put this

    Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as “a personal responsibility principle’’ and Massachusetts’ newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama’s plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.

    It's what Romney did... it's pretty obvious. The only thing he could argue is that the state government can do it, but not the federal, and this begs the question why the GOP ever supported this anyway. Were they simply backing for mandated health care because they felt it was unpopular and easy to attack, therefore nobody was really going to stand behind it and pass it?
    Exactly, in fact this proposal was made by the GOP when HillaryCare was talked about. GOP = hypocrites


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