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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Unemployment in Texas doesn't look all that great when compared with others.

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    And one cannot help but notice that the four states abutting Texas ALL have lower unemployment rates.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I do not respond to open ended questions, so do us both a favor and try not to waste your time in the future. Ok?

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    The sheer scope of the macro economy renders common sense a useless tool for establishing a cause/effect relationship with various macro data. The same data you continue to misrepresent on a daily basis. I know it is far too late for you to gain a clear understanding of our economic and financial realities, but try not and water down the discussion with ideological driven rhetoric.
    Oh, I have all the time in the world as a retired capitalist. Interesting that you seem to believe it is ok to have your money "taken" by the govt. and put into a SS fund and then never get it back. Seems that "libertarians" have a problem with logic and common sense as well, not all, just some that post here. Seems that only "libertarians", some that post here are the intelligent ones and post theory as fact and ignore actual facts. Let me know when you are going to address questions. In the meantime remember

    Rick Perry, net job gain, increasing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a two year balanced budget; Barack Obama net job loss, declining labor force, less people working, and 4 trillion ADDED to the debt.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And one cannot help but notice that the four states abutting Texas ALL have lower unemployment rates.
    So haymarket, you seem to love percentage change as well and ignore actual numbers. Let me help you

    Rick Perry, net job gain, increasing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a two year balanced budget; Barack Obama net job loss, declining labor force, less people working, and 4 trillion ADDED to the debt.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Yeah, and let's add -- U.S. as a whole, declining unemployment -- Texas, rising unemployment. And of course Perry used Obama's stimulus money to help balance Texas' budget.

    Important also not to forget that Texas has a weak governor system, so Perry actually has less influence over Texas' outcome than any other governor in the country has over his or her state's outcome.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, and let's add -- U.S. as a whole, declining unemployment -- Texas, rising unemployment. And of course Perry used Obama's stimulus money to help balance Texas' budget.
    Yet you support someone who has higher unemployment and someone who has lost jobs, added trillions to the debt, increased the misery index, and promotes the nanny state. Is the population of the country declining? How do you think the 25+ million unemployed and under employed Americans feel about the Obama record? Wonder if they are in the 38% that support Obama.

    Pretty simple comparison

    Rick Perry, net job gain, increasing labor force, more jobs today than when Obama took office, and a two year balanced budget; Barack Obama net job loss, declining labor force, less people working, and 4 trillion ADDED to the debt.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is all about the comparisons. You could move from some state with a high cost of living to TX, where the cost of living is real low. If you are making minimum wage or just around minimum wage in both places but you can actually afford decent housing and to eat in TX but not whatever state you were living in, then it is worth it to move to TX. Plus, if you live in a state where you can't find a job, but there is some job opening for what you know how to do in TX, then why not move to TX.

    Then, you have to figure that some people are sort of moved there without much choice. One good example, since we are talking about TX, is military spouses. Military spouses usually go where their spouse gets stationed. It is quite possible that they had a decent job whereever they were, but, considering the benefits from the military, many spouses give up okay paying jobs for minimum wage or just above minimum wage jobs to be with their spouse. This would also apply to others outside of the military who move to TX for their job but the spouse can't find a job/decent job when the family gets there.

    Another thing that could affect the numbers is people simply taking chances and those chances going south, but they can't really afford to move back. This actually happened to my family when I was 17. My mother got a job in SC, we bought a home and moved, and then my mother lost her job because of some stupid rule they had about bank accounts (they told her she had to get a checking account for her direct deposit at a specific bank after she started working there). She lost her job and we were living off my father's WalMart paycheck at least til I went into the Navy.
    The political climate is also a factor...

    Take for instance.... Oregon. The last couple of years has turned a hard left in politics. Everybody and their retarded ****ing socialist gay bro is moving there from Kalifornia. As a result, property values and cost of living are going through the roof while the wages are stagnating because Oregon is inexplicably hostile to industry. No matter where you are in the state, the left wing politics in Portland decide your fate.

    The move towards a conservative state helps in that regard.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting that you seem to believe it is ok to have your money "taken" by the govt. and put into a SS fund and then never get it back.
    It happens every day; someone who dies one year into receiving S.S. never gets it back. If you bothered to actually read parts of the study i provided, how/why this happens should be perfectly clear. But not, you read the first line of my statement and immediately hit reply.

    Seems that "libertarians" have a problem with logic and common sense as well, not all, just some that post here. Seems that only "libertarians", some that post here are the intelligent ones and post theory as fact and ignore actual facts. Let me know when you are going to address questions.
    No. It seems like Conservative does not possess the ability to refute anything i have stated, and has to resort to getting personal in a last ditch effort to discredit me.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    It happens every day; someone who dies one year into receiving S.S. never gets it back. If you bothered to actually read parts of the study i provided, how/why this happens should be perfectly clear. But not, you read the first line of my statement and immediately hit reply.



    No. It seems like Conservative does not possess the ability to refute anything i have stated, and has to resort to getting personal in a last ditch effort to discredit me.

    Not quite true, someone that dies one year into SS sees some of their benefits going to their heir but your statement didn't reference dying while collecting SS. you seem to have no problem contributing your entire work career into a fund and never getting it back. If you don't need SS then take the check and give it away. Instead you prefer govt. taking their administrative costs and low return and sending it to someone else.

    For someone who claims I have personally attacked you, you seem to be doing what you condemn. That makes you the liberal in libertarian. Claiming you are a libertarian and showing your support for Obama discredits you, not me.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    For someone who claims I have personally attacked you, you seem to be doing what you condemn. That makes you the liberal in libertarian. Claiming you are a libertarian and showing your support for Obama discredits you, not me.
    Look at your post record. All you do is repeat yourself, make personal references based on subjective assumption, and side-step at every turn. I called you out for lacking the ability to adequately respond to my post(s) based on the content (or lack there of) you provide here on DP. Maybe you should put more effort into your posts?
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The political climate is also a factor...

    Take for instance.... Oregon. The last couple of years has turned a hard left in politics. Everybody and their retarded ****ing socialist gay bro is moving there from Kalifornia. As a result, property values and cost of living are going through the roof while the wages are stagnating because Oregon is inexplicably hostile to industry. No matter where you are in the state, the left wing politics in Portland decide your fate.

    The move towards a conservative state helps in that regard.
    Except, the political climate isn't really what is helping business in TX. This was posted before to try to show that it was, because TX is 2nd for top state to do business.

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    But if you look at the separate areas that determine what makes TX in the top states to do business, it is due to transportation and infrastructure, cost of living, access to capital, and tech and innovation. TX actually ranks 33rd, which is pretty bad considering, for the cost of doing business. And Oregon, since you brought it up, is well above TX for the cost of doing business and is just 5 ranks below TX for business friendliness.
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