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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care
    Oh, now you ARE lying!

    Unless you can't remember as far back as two days ago, when I posted a letter to Congress by Richard Nixon outlining his plan for national health care.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    In fairness, Government does this all the time with schools, police stations & police force, fire stations & firefighters, and all other services and protections that we as a society have decided the government should handle (vs the private sector handling).

    I suppose you could say that healthcare would be just another one of these "protections" - right?
    We are talking a different govt. State Governments do have that right, not the Federal Mandate and that is the different. Power closest to the people which is why Romneycare is different, it was a state program and within the authority of the state, there is no such authority to mandate healthcare nationally.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh, now you ARE lying!

    Unless you can't remember as far back as two days ago, when I posted a letter to Congress by Richard Nixon outlining his plan for national health care.
    Lying? Prove it, Where was that proposal and when?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Because of his religious baggage, desire to completely eliminate the EPA, etc
    I don't take anyone seriously that claims anyone else has religious baggage. With 80% of this country or better believing in God, not sure that is a negative and if it is, so be it, I will take that over the alternative.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Right, Conservative has a moral objection to government telling people what to do ... unless it's STATE government. THAT'S okay.

    But if you really believe in "power closest to the people", why shouldn't it be up to county, or even town/city government?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Because of his religious baggage, desire to completely eliminate the EPA, etc
    If there is one thing I've learned, if you really want to understand history and how one event led to another, you need to know the people and if you don't understand the people, then you'll make incorrect assumptions.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care so please let us know when that happened. What does this have to do with the thread topic and Rick Perry, just more diversion on your part and I don't blame you. 38% JAR isn't a very good rating a year from the election and with no economic plan to reverse the trend. Then there is the Gallup Poll showing Perry and Obama tied. I fully expect Obama to be in the 30's in the polls vs. Republican candidates soon. There is no reason to vote for Obama with the results he has generated, results that liberals always ignore. Your state is a disaster financially and from I heard is looking for a bailout from the Federal Taxpayer. Not going to happen with the GOP in charge of the House so the people of California are going to have to pay up for liberalism and the entitlement mentality you have
    Funny that you call it a "diversion" tactic...when I was responding directly to the issue you raised....LOL..... Once again, Con you fail to see the forest through the trees.

    Are you seriously unaware that the mandate was a Republican idea that was raised previous to Obama? You seriously need to do your homework if you weren't aware of this.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Lying? Prove it, Where was that proposal and when?
    Yes, lying. I posted it in response to the very same inaccurate statement you made a couple of days ago.

    Nixon's Plan For Health Reform, In His Own Words - Kaiser Health News

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, Conservative has a moral objection to government telling people what to do ... unless it's STATE government. THAT'S okay.

    But if you really believe in "power closest to the people", why shouldn't it be up to county, or even town/city government?
    It isn't too late, sign up for a history and civics class this fall. You have no idea what our Founders created here. Obviously you are looking for the Federal govt. to implement what you cannot force on your state. That is a losing argument as you will see this fall with the Supreme Court

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't take anyone seriously that claims anyone else has religious baggage. With 80% of this country or better believing in God, not sure that is a negative and if it is, so be it, I will take that over the alternative.
    It is one thing to be a "Spiritual fruit".....it is a completely different thing to be a "religious nut". Enough said.....Perry is a radical whacko that most Americans will shun.
    Don't believe me?.......put your money where you mouth is and help him get the nomination.
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