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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is a mandate because that is the only way Obama can make this work, he needs massive numbers to fund this program that does nothing to lower healthcare costs.

    Yes, you can't require insurance cover pre-existing conditions without a mandate. Insurance companies have to have the numbers in order to cover this. Not sure what you're actually trying to say though.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, you can't require insurance cover pre-existing conditions without a mandate. Insurance companies have to have the numbers in order to cover this. Not sure what you're actually trying to say though.
    What I am trying to say is what we all know, the govt. has no business mandating that the American people buy anything especially something that is a jobs killer and will do nothing to lower healthcare costs.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What I am trying to say is what we all know, the govt. has no business mandating that the American people buy anything especially something that is a jobs killer and will do nothing to lower healthcare costs.
    I don't know how you get that from what you actually said, but OK. We'll see how the court thing works out, but you can't make insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions without the mandate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What I am trying to say is what we all know, the govt. has no business mandating that the American people buy anything especially something that is a jobs killer and will do nothing to lower healthcare costs.
    I don't know of a single projection that says costs will not out pace inflation what ever plan is utilized. I do know of a projection that if things were to stay as they were prior to the PPACA says this:


    The results of CBO’s projections suggest that in the absence of changes in federal law:
    Total spending on health care would rise from 16 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007 to 25 percent in 2025, 37 percent in 2050, and 49 percent in 2082.
    The Long-Term Outlook for Health Care Spending

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't know of a single projection that says costs will not out pace inflation what ever plan is utilized. I do know of a projection that if things were to stay as they were prior to the PPACA says this:


    The results of CBO’s projections suggest that in the absence of changes in federal law:
    Total spending on health care would rise from 16 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007 to 25 percent in 2025, 37 percent in 2050, and 49 percent in 2082.
    The Long-Term Outlook for Health Care Spending
    CBO Projections that far out aren't worth the paper they are written on and what happens if you and the rest of the Obamacare fans are wrong? There is a difference between taxpayer funded healthcare and private funded healthcare. You don't seem to know the difference

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is a mandate because that is the only way Obama can make this work, he needs massive numbers to fund this program that does nothing to lower healthcare costs.
    The only way to lower health care cost at this point is by destroying the AMA's monopoly on care
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    CBO Projections that far out aren't worth the paper they are written on and what happens if you and the rest of the Obamacare fans are wrong? There is a difference between taxpayer funded healthcare and private funded healthcare. You don't seem to know the difference
    Ah great platitudes that are equivalent to a donut hole.

    Historically the rate of inflation in health care costs has been higher in the private sector vs the public sector.
    Last edited by winston53660; 08-24-11 at 05:27 PM.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Perry leads Romney by 29% to 17%.....Whaddya think about that?

    Perry Zooms to Front of Pack for 2012 GOP Nomination

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    That parry has less of a chance in a gen election than romni does
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Perry leads Romney by 29% to 17%.....Whaddya think about that?

    Perry Zooms to Front of Pack for 2012 GOP Nomination
    Like this poll as well, latest from Gallup

    Obama vs. Romney

    Gallup

    8/17 - 8/18 879 RV 46 48 Romney +2

    Obama vs. Perry

    Gallup
    8/17 - 8/18 879 RV 47 47 Tie

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