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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    The only way what you said could be construed as accurate is if they hoard it in their walls, or under their beds.

    There is nothing basic about your view, it is ignorant populist crap.
    Not true at all. Failure by the wealthiest to reinvest in this country is what leads to the decline of real income. THAT is economics 101.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    And the costs of ER care is substantially higher than the cost of clinic care....which is exactly why a single-payer system makes sense strictly on an economic level.
    Right and MA is a shining example of that were Medical costs have risen dramatically because there aren't enough doctors.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    how do poor people make less money buy allowing rich people to make more money? explain this foolishness please.
    The money supply is finite moment to moment. If a few own too much of that money, there isn't enough to BE paychecks.

    The "pie" does grow, but if the same people get the lions share of all "new" pie, the "pie-less" are still "pie-less".
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What I find mildly confusing is how people didn't see this coming. It was clear a long time ago that the far left had taken over the Democrat party. All the info was there as to what the President's positions would be. And yet, these fools were voted into office, first with Democrat control of Congress, then the White House. And just now the average person is getting upset and thinks they're doing a poor job? How could they not? How, with no evidence to support it, did anybody think this was gonna work? The people have gotten the government they voted for, and they had to take it in the teeth to see what it was they voted for.
    Actually....they didn't. The majority of Americans wanted a "public option".....the poor substitution that we got was a result of an attempt to compromise and include the Republican idea of requiring Americans to purchase insurance to get a handful of bluedogs to go along. The American people absolutely did not get what they voted for.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The money supply is finite moment to moment. If a few own too much of that money, there isn't enough to BE paychecks.

    The "pie" does grow, but if the same people get the lions share of all "new" pie, the "pie-less" are still "pie-less".
    Perhaps ARC can understand it in those terms.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The money supply is finite moment to moment. If a few own too much of that money, there isn't enough to BE paychecks.

    The "pie" does grow, but if the same people get the lions share of all "new" pie, the "pie-less" are still "pie-less".
    the pie is growing out of proportion because of our ability to debase the currency, not because tax rates are cut.

    you are actually agreeing with me. the rich get the new pie before it dilutes the value of all the old pie. the pie-less eventually do get more pie, but by the time they see it, the pie has been digested and looks more like poo then pie.

    what we just described is the situation that came into play 6 years prior to Reagan. This is what the problem is, not tax rates.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Even if true, so? They didn't do both at the same time. If they did, they could not have had that problem. You're actually just saying they were incompetent.
    He posts proof that the rightwingers are boobs, and uses that as an argument for putting the boobs in charge of the economy
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually....they didn't. The majority of Americans wanted a "public option".....the poor substitution that we got was a result of an attempt to compromise and include the Republican idea of requiring Americans to purchase insurance to get a handful of bluedogs to go along. The American people absolutely did not get what they voted for.
    Problem is that the fox is guarding the hen house and the people who are making these decisions are immune from the effects of what they do. Until that changes, we're all in a pretty ****ed up situation.

    It's a ****ty deal, any way you cut it. But the sooner you realize that there is no "sweet deal" for anyone anymore, and take action to preserve whatever you've got going with respect to your family finances, retirement, etc., the better off you'll be. Because dude, this is happening. ...And it's happening right now.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am for hospitals going after anyone that shirks their responsibility regarding payment for services rendered and taking their assets if necessary.
    Taking assets? ROFL Most of those that don't pay hospital bills do so because they have no assets. They are most likely living paycheck to paycheck. You may find a TV and a couple of other older electronics, possibly clothes and toys. Their car, if they have one at all, is probably owned by whatever ****ty bank or used car dealership gave them a loan at huge interest rates. And it most likely wouldn't be worth anything anyway. They are most likely renting their home. Their total assets liquidated would probably be less than a couple of thousand dollars, at most, and that would be if you sold all their clothes and other personal belongings.

    One out-patient operation can cost over $7000 by itself, not including additional doctor visits. How much do you think an emergency trip to the ER would cost? On average, between $1200 and $1700. This is just for one ER visit. What do you do if the person is just treated for the symptoms and sent home then has to return later that day or the next because they got worse? Or worse, their problem requires an overnight stay? There is no way that the person will be able to pay off their bill with their assets.

    The sad part is that it doesn't need to cost that much. So many things are marked up, for several reasons, including price gougers for drugs/medications.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the pie is growing out of proportion because of our ability to debase the currency, not because tax rates are cut.

    you are actually agreeing with me. the rich get the new pie before it dilutes the value of all the old pie. the pie-less eventually do get more pie, but by the time they see it, the pie has been digested and looks more like poo then pie.

    what we just described is the situation that came into play 6 years prior to Reagan. This is what the problem is, not tax rates.
    Cool, and that WOULD provide a possible explanation as to WHAT happened about that time that changed the economic trajectories of the American people.

    Sometime in the 70s everybody stopped moving forward fiscally. The top quintiles income has skyrocketed, the lower 4 have stagnated or fallen.

    I actually believe that global expansionist capitalism became parasitic when the world filled up and there was nowhere to expand into that wasn't already occupied.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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