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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    LOL, yep, Iowa, a real destination state for illegals and legal immigrants.
    Actually, quite a few. But even if it weren't, it wouldn't change what I said. People who take responsibility don't whine. They go to work. Whinners are always making excuses. Your rank is what it is, low. In both education and health care, Texas ranks low, below average.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, quite a few. But even if it weren't, it wouldn't change what I said. People who take responsibility don't whine. They go to work. Whinners are always making excuses. Your rank is what it is, low. In both education and health care, Texas ranks low, below average.
    Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    You might consider how small our population is, but allow me to give you some reading:

    http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Pub...ons/PM1879.pdf

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share
    No one's whining. That's the spin you choose to use. We only say that tackling the deficit requires both spending cuts and tax increases. This is called being realistic and pragmatic.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share
    funny...i hear republicans whining about the poor not paying taxes all the time......

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes?
    Huh?

    Rick Perry: Middle Income Americans Don't Pay Enough Income Taxes

    But back in the real world, I learn from newly minted GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry what’s wrong with America—that middle income Americans don’t pay enough taxes. Really.
    We’re dismayed at the injustice that nearly half of all Americans don’t even pay any income tax. (Quoted in this terrific Ruth Marcus column.)
    We’re apparently not dismayed that more than half of all Americans have been in a 30-year recession with little or no income growth. We’re apparently willing to write off Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, which are the big federal taxes for low- and middle-income Americans. A family of four earning $30,000 may pay no federal income tax, but it pays $4,590 in payroll taxes (including the employer’s share, which economists believe is ultimately paid by the employee in the form of lower wages). Payroll taxes are much bigger than income taxes for most families.

    Rick Perry: Middle Income Americans Don't Pay Enough Income Taxes - Forbes

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one's whining. That's the spin you choose to use. We only say that tackling the deficit requires both spending cuts and tax increases. This is called being realistic and pragmatic.
    Cut the 3.7 trillion dollar budget first and then we can discuss tax increases. Putting 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans back to work full time will help the revenue a lot and that requires a growing economy.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    funny...i hear republicans whining about the poor not paying taxes all the time......
    Then cite your source? You confuse conservatives with liberals who believe we have a revenue problem. Show me where I have ever said we had a revenue problem?

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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    Cut the 3.7 trillion dollar budget first and then we can discuss tax increases. Putting 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans back to work full time will help the revenue a lot and that requires a growing economy.
    Why? Both can be done at the same time. And you want government to hire workers? Taxes have a minimal to little effect on the economy, and there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs or that tax cuts stop jobs from being created.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Why? Both can be done at the same time. And you want government to hire workers? Taxes have a minimal to little effect on the economy, and there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs or that tax cuts stop jobs from being created.
    Both Reagan and GHW Bush compromised with DEmocrats and guess what, we got the tax increases and no spending cuts

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