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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What bothers me are the Obama results and the fact that he is a total incompetent empty suit. He stands for nothing that I support. There is absolutely no reason to give him another four years. I will take the Romney record any day over what Obama has done and all the promises broken.
    I don't think anyone here had you in the "leaning Obama" category.

    One of Romney's big problems will be that Bain Capital's business was to buy companies and off-shore jobs. His job creation record is all about new jobs in India. Nonetheless, he is a more credible candidate and far more likely to give Obama a run than the two "empty heads" that are running against him. Huntsman is also a respectable and credible candidate.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't ask you about Obama. Why are you dodging the question?
    Its hard to blame a guy for doing what he does best...

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    If Parry gets in and the GOP maintain the house, he can set agenda. This means all those stupid social policy crap like Constitutional amendments to make marriage between 1 man and 1 woman, defunding research in stem-cells, re-establishing don't ask don't tell, pushing for father rights in abortion, etc.
    Yep, all of those critical issues that once implemented will certainly return American to full employment, balance the budget, reduce our debt and re-assert America's standing as a world economic power.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Wow! I thought you were all about facts. Where on earth did you come up with these numbers? They certainly are quite interesting, but let's start with the fact the federal revenues (which includes payroll taxes and income taxes) has never exceeded $2.568T, which occurred in 2007. Moreover, total federal tax revenues include payroll taxes, which were unaffected by the tax cuts. They did rise, masking the shortfall of federal income tax receipts.

    Sorry, but the highest amount ever collected in individual income tax was $1.163T (nothing north of $2T, which your table states), also in 2007 and corporate income taxes was .9T (in 2008). But, you don't have to take my word for it... see table 2.1 of the Budget

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/pdf/hist.pdf

    Now, you will also note from this table that individual income taxes (which were affected by the so-called Bush tax cuts) fell 20% for over $1T to under $.8T in four year, before finally rebounding in 2006. The Bush tax cuts resulted in LESS income tax revenue. They did not work (unless, of course you were an individual taxpayer in the highest brackets, in which case they worked very well).

    As you are all about the facts, I know you will study the tables and correct this and future assertions accordingly.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here we go again, reliving the war which has absolutely nothing to do with the yearly deficits that Obama has generated. Bush had nothing to do with the 3 trillion in 2010-2011 as those were totally Obama.

    Ill timed tax cuts? You mean the Tax cuts that actually grew govt. revenue?

    Federal Income Tax revenue by year. Bush tax cuts 2001-2003

    2001 2163.7
    2002 2002.1
    2003 2047.9
    2004 2213.2
    2005 2546.8
    2006 2807.4
    2007 2951.2
    2008 2790.3

    You do realize that Democrats controlled the Senate and voted 77-23 believing there were WMD's although what purpose does it serve to relive that now?
    Making up numbers again, huh?


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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ZIRP4EVA View Post
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    Not a shock since he can appeal to virtually every faction of the Republican base.
    I predicted he would win the GOP nomination if he entered the race precisely for the reason you stated.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Wow! I thought you were all about facts. Where on earth did you come up with these numbers? They certainly are quite interesting, but let's start with the fact the federal revenues (which includes payroll taxes and income taxes) has never exceeded $2.568T, which occurred in 2007. Moreover, total federal tax revenues include payroll taxes, which were unaffected by the tax cuts. They did rise, masking the shortfall of federal income tax receipts.

    Sorry, but the highest amount ever collected in individual income tax was $1.163T (nothing north of $2T, which your table states), also in 2007 and corporate income taxes was .9T (in 2008). But, you don't have to take my word for it... see table 2.1 of the Budget

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/pdf/hist.pdf

    Now, you will also note from this table that individual income taxes (which were affected by the so-called Bush tax cuts) fell 20% for over $1T to under $.8T in four year, before finally rebounding in 2006. The Bush tax cuts resulted in LESS income tax revenue. They did not work (unless, of course you were an individual taxpayer in the highest brackets, in which case they worked very well).

    As you are all about the facts, I know you will study the tables and correct this and future assertions accordingly.
    Not sure where you get your information but FIT does NOT include payroll taxes and if you ever looked at the U.S. Budget you would know that. Payroll taxes fund SS and Medicare which are another line item in revenue as well as expense. Wonder why those are on budget? Hmmm, thought they were in that Gore lockbox.

    I posted the data right from bea.gov. Suggest you go there and see the information. If you believe that tax cuts cause deficits, send yours back for you are still getting it today.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Notice anything similar between border states in the rankings you posted. TX ranks higher than both California and Arizona. Shows the value of your rankings which isn't relevant at all. I guess people in Iowa don't have a true understanding of what we face in a border state just like you don't seem to have any idea on other issues.


    You're just trying to make excuses. In Iowa, we have a huge immigrant population as well. The difference is we don't make excuses, but accept personal responsibility. Texas should try that.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    You're just trying to make excuses. In Iowa, we have a huge immigrant population as well. The difference is we don't make excuses, but accept personal responsibility. Texas should try that.
    LOL, yep, Iowa, a real destination state for illegals and legal immigrants.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    You're just trying to make excuses. In Iowa, we have a huge immigrant population as well. The difference is we don't make excuses, but accept personal responsibility. Texas should try that.
    Sure is a huge illegal immigration problem in IOWA

    Illegal Immigration in the U.S.: State-by-State Totals - Graphic - Pew Hispanic Center

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