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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'd rather the Republicans field a decent candidate. But If I were a rabid Obama supporter I'd rather Obama face Perry.
    Huntsman and Paul are the only people in the current field I could see having a chance of beating Obama. The repubs need to understand that most of America doesn't want evangelicals forcing their interpretation of the bible on them.

    Edit: No, I take that back. If Parry and Bachman can keep deflecting religious questions in an attemp to try to convince the people that they won't "go there" Parry could give Obama a run for his money. Assuming the economy doesn't improve at all that is (not likely IMO).
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Huntsman and Paul are the only people in the current field I could see having a chance of beating Obama. The repubs need to understand that most of America doesn't want evangelicals forcing their interpretation of the bible on them.

    Edit: No, I take that back. If Parry and Bachman can keep deflecting religious questions in an attemp to try to convince the people that they won't "go there" Parry could give Obama a run for his money. Assuming the economy doesn't improve at all that is (not likely IMO).
    If Perry gets in office, then he has to obey the law of the land. Period

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    If Perry gets in office, then he has to obey the law of the land. Period

    Pffft like any President in recent history has obeyed the law,

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    If Perry gets in office, then he has to obey the law of the land. Period
    If Parry gets in and the GOP maintain the house, he can set agenda. This means all those stupid social policy crap like Constitutional amendments to make marriage between 1 man and 1 woman, defunding research in stem-cells, re-establishing don't ask don't tell, pushing for father rights in abortion, etc.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Pffft like any President in recent history has obeyed the law,
    Wow, why so cynical?

    Examples of Presidencies during which the laws of the land have basically not been obeyed? I can't think of a single one.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Wow, why so cynical?

    Examples of Presidencies during which the laws of the land have basically not been obeyed? I can't think of a single one.
    Iran Contra, Clinton perjury......

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    If Parry gets in and the GOP maintain the house, he can set agenda. This means all those stupid social policy crap like Constitutional amendments to make marriage between 1 man and 1 woman, defunding research in stem-cells, re-establishing don't ask don't tell, pushing for father rights in abortion, etc.
    Again, from a personal standpoint, he has the right, and per his beliefs, but if he is in office, then he has to obey the law of the land. That doesn't mean he can't take steps to get some issues looked at, but he has to follow the law.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again, from a personal standpoint, he has the right, and per his beliefs, but if he is in office, then he has to obey the law of the land. That doesn't mean he can't take steps to get some issues looked at, but he has to follow the law.
    Executive orders are a funny thing. He doesn't believe in global warming, he can just fire the EPA, gut OSHA (might not be a bad thing), or any other agency.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Executive orders are a funny thing. He doesn't believe in global warming, he can just fire the EPA, gut OSHA (might not be a bad thing), or any other agency.
    We'll see over the next 15 months who is right.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here we go again, reliving the war which has absolutely nothing to do with the yearly deficits that Obama has generated. Bush had nothing to do with the 3 trillion in 2010-2011 as those were totally Obama.

    Ill timed tax cuts? You mean the Tax cuts that actually grew govt. revenue?

    Federal Income Tax revenue by year. Bush tax cuts 2001-2003

    2001 2163.7
    2002 2002.1
    2003 2047.9
    2004 2213.2
    2005 2546.8
    2006 2807.4
    2007 2951.2
    2008 2790.3

    You do realize that Democrats controlled the Senate and voted 77-23 believing there were WMD's although what purpose does it serve to relive that now?
    Wow! I thought you were all about facts. Where on earth did you come up with these numbers? They certainly are quite interesting, but let's start with the fact the federal revenues (which includes payroll taxes and income taxes) has never exceeded $2.568T, which occurred in 2007. Moreover, total federal tax revenues include payroll taxes, which were unaffected by the tax cuts. They did rise, masking the shortfall of federal income tax receipts.

    Sorry, but the highest amount ever collected in individual income tax was $1.163T (nothing north of $2T, which your table states), also in 2007 and corporate income taxes was .9T (in 2008). But, you don't have to take my word for it... see table 2.1 of the Budget

    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/pdf/hist.pdf

    Now, you will also note from this table that individual income taxes (which were affected by the so-called Bush tax cuts) fell 20% for over $1T to under $.8T in four year, before finally rebounding in 2006. The Bush tax cuts resulted in LESS income tax revenue. They did not work (unless, of course you were an individual taxpayer in the highest brackets, in which case they worked very well).

    As you are all about the facts, I know you will study the tables and correct this and future assertions accordingly.
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