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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Do you realize that Romney implemented the program in MA, not nationally and knows that states have that responsibility. Seems either you cannot convince your state to do what MA does so you want to inflict your ideology on everyone else in the country.

You do realize that Romney ran on an individual mandate in 2008, right?
 
Like I said, hospitals write off free health care which reduces their tax obligations. That costs the federal government money.

Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?
 
Better taking a reading course, you asked why TX has such a high rate of uninsured and I gave you a reason, when 50% of the employees are offered insurance and CHOOSE not to take it that is a reason that the uninsured number is higher. Nothing changes the mind of a liberal ideologue where personal responsibility doesn't exist

Oh, by the way many of those children are insured by the SCHPs program and medicaid. Interesting how you ignore that reality

Continuing to dodge the questions, choosing instead to insult me? Nice. Oh well, at least you concede that I was right.
 
Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?

Are you trying to say that hospitals don't have to file federal tax returns?
 
Continuing to dodge the questions, choosing instead to insult me? Nice. Oh well, at least you concede that I was right.

Your post asked a question, why is TX ranked so low on the insured. I answered it, you didn't like the answer and now claim victory. LOL, enjoy your invisible prize
 
Hospitals are paid for by state taxes. Do you ever look at your tax bill each year? You don't seem to have a clue as to what you are funding. Are you employed?

Uhmmm misleading as usual. Medicaid is a 50 50 program state / fed. Medicare is a fed program. Were these to be taken away practically every hospital would close.
 
Not arguing against it at all, just the Federal Govt. paying for it. ER charges are state charges, not Federal charges. The people of TX don't pay for your ER charges nor do you pay for ours

Do you understand how medicaid works? The federal government tells the hospital what they'll pay for and what price they'll pay... the rest of the bill just goes unpaid. That hurts hospitals and hurts their ability to pay their overhead... sometimes doctors will just order unnecessary tests on people with medicaid and insurance so they'll get some more money out of them. If everybody had health insurance, and everybody paid their bill the cost of medical care would come down significantly in this country.
 
People have a choice to live in a particular state, not much of a choice to move out of the country. The Federal Constitution doesn't give that power to Congress since ER charges are state charges, not Federal charges

:lamo :lamo :lamo

You have a choice to move out this country.... lol
 
Are you trying to say that hospitals don't have to file federal tax returns?

Just like all businesses that deduct bad debt from their expenses. a drop in the bucket in the overall picture. Think the govt deserves the bad debt created by illegal immigration in this country? Nice spin though which ignores the basic point, the taxpayers of the state, not the Federal Taxpayer funds ER expenses.
 
I like the way that article put this

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as “a personal responsibility principle’’ and Massachusetts’ newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama’s plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.

It's what Romney did... it's pretty obvious. The only thing he could argue is that the state government can do it, but not the federal, and this begs the question why the GOP ever supported this anyway. Were they simply backing for mandated health care because they felt it was unpopular and easy to attack, therefore nobody was really going to stand behind it and pass it? :lamo
Exactly, in fact this proposal was made by the GOP when HillaryCare was talked about. GOP = hypocrites:lamo
 
Do you understand how medicaid works? The federal government tells the hospital what they'll pay for and what price they'll pay... the rest of the bill just goes unpaid. That hurts hospitals and hurts their ability to pay their overhead... sometimes doctors will just order unnecessary tests on people with medicaid and insurance so they'll get some more money out of them. If everybody had health insurance, and everybody paid their bill the cost of medical care would come down significantly in this country.

Of course hospitals receive a significant portion of their income from both Medicare and Medicaid patients. Free emergency room care drives up the hospitals' costs, which in part they offset by charging more to Medicare and Medicaid, which is in turn costs the government more, which in turn costs ME more.
 
Exactly, in fact this proposal was made by the GOP when HillaryCare was talked about. GOP = hypocrites:lamo

Interesting that a thread on Perry has become a thread on Romneycare. Nice diversion as usual
 
Conservative, I have a question for you: Why is Texas #50 in the nation for health-care uninsured rate, while Massachusetts is #1? Why does Massachusetts lead the nation in lowest uninsured rates for the elderly in three of five lower-to-middle-class, while Texas is dead last for three of those same five categories? Nearly three-quarters of non-elderly Texans who receive Medicaid are children; why? Are the little children responsible for pulling themselves up by the bootstraps before they even become adults?

(Source: Health Coverage & Uninsured - Kaiser State Health Facts)

That doesn't look good for Texas...
 
I don't recall that being the case but doesn't really matter to me since Romney care is a state program and I have no problem if your state wants to charge you for a universal program since states pay for ER costs anyway.

So you don't care that he is a hypocrite, and your just going to put your faith in him anyway... the guy flip flops on everything. But I guess you and Mitt have things in common.
 
Of course hospitals receive a significant portion of their income from both Medicare and Medicaid patients. Free emergency room care drives up the hospitals' costs, which in part they offset by charging more to Medicare and Medicaid, which is in turn costs the government more, which in turn costs ME more.



Keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Medicare is funded by payroll taxes, Medicaid is funded 50% by state taxes and only affects low income people which once again shows that healthcare is a state expense, not a Federal Expense. Amazing how people like you have so much confidence in the Federal govt. solving a social problem when it is that govt that now has a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, NONE or very little of it created by healthcare expenses. So let's increase the federal taxpayer exposure
 
So you don't care that he is a hypocrite, and your just going to put your faith in him anyway... the guy flip flops on everything. But I guess you and Mitt have things in common.

I call that irrelevant on a Rick Perry thread. Rick Perry was also a Democrat in 1988, Reagan was a Democrat as was I. People change and it matters only what he will do right now.
 
I disagree, the GOP or at least the Conservatives in the GOP have no problem with minorities and would be happy for everyone to get a bigger piece of the pie because the pie isn't a finite product, it keeps growing. Liberals IMO are fighting so hard to keep people dependent on their programs. I will ask the same question asked earlier, are minorities better off today than they were when Obama took office?

Which programs? You really go there and say minorities are all on welfare? More white people are on welfare, and if you're so pissed off about welfare programs then do something about it. When is the last time a president overhauled welfare... oh, Bill Clinton.
 
What really is BS is ignoring the Obama rhetoric and voting for him because he was black. That is what the blacks did the last election in LARGE numbers with many looking for that Obama stash. Seems that Maxine Waters is questioning what you are ignoring.

They usually vote democratic anyway... it wasn't a big deal IMO. If they vote for somebody just because they are black, then why didn't they all vote for Alan or Cain?
 
Which programs? You really go there and say minorities are all on welfare? More white people are on welfare, and if you're so pissed off about welfare programs then do something about it. When is the last time a president overhauled welfare... oh, Bill Clinton.

African Americans make up about 13% of the population so of course there are going to be more white people on welfare but that isn't the question at all. Allen West says it best, why are you ignoring his comments? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty? Could it be the feel good rhetoric, spending in the name of compassion? Where are the compassionate results?

GOP‘s Allen West Says He’s the Modern Day Harriet Tubman | Video | TheBlaze.com
 
Medicaid is funded 50% by state taxes and only affects low income people which once again shows that healthcare is a state expense, not a Federal Expense.

That is a hilarious, you mean the 3 billion or so Texas gets from the fed doesn't cost anything? :lamo
 
They usually vote democratic anyway... it wasn't a big deal IMO. If they vote for somebody just because they are black, then why didn't they all vote for Alan or Cain?

What is Allen and Cain running for? Looks to me like Allen was elected in Florida? This is the first time Cain has run for political office.
 
I have no problem with going after people to pay their ER services but that doesn't change the fact that ER expenses are paid by the states not the Federal govt. thus healthcare mandates need to come from the states.

lol... what is so difficult for you to understand that medicaid and medicare are federal programs?
 
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