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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I shake my head at the all too frequent examples of the far right mentality which savours the prospect of male rape and/or torture as a component of the American way of justice.
    Quite frankly, if it were up to me, we'd have a way stricter form of justice. What we have now isn't even justice at all. People aren't afraid to break the law. Which is why we have overcrowded prisons and people actually want to rid of the death penalty and then those same people jump on the "prisons are too crowded" bandwagon.
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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I shake my head at the all too frequent examples of the far right mentality which savours the prospect of male rape and/or torture as a component of the American way of justice.
    I happen to believe that prison should be a punishment. It is not a hospital to cure people of their criminal behavior that a lot of scumbag sympathizers would have us believe. But idiots insist that these scum should have TVs, air conditioning, weights, libraries and many other luxuries so the only bad thing about prison is what might happen in a episode of OZ. Prison should not be a San Francisco Dormitory on the rough side of town. It should be a prison. As a prison the inmates should work in chain gangs, not have luxuries, not have any freedom to interact with anyone and so on.
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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    I just refuse to believe crime rates are down. Down from what and when? Every type of crime? Is it a long term trend or a blip? How is the data being reported? Could it be a lot of crimes are being underreported?

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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    I just refuse to believe crime rates are down. Down from what and when? Every type of crime? Is it a long term trend or a blip? How is the data being reported? Could it be a lot of crimes are being underreported?
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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    So...thats a 'no' on late term abortions?

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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    I just refuse to believe crime rates are down. Down from what and when? Every type of crime? Is it a long term trend or a blip? How is the data being reported? Could it be a lot of crimes are being underreported?
    We're just talking 'caregiver on cared for minor' statistics - whcih are spotty at best.

    But I see no evidence that people 100 years ago - or 500 years ago - were more tolerant or patient. What has changed, statistically, is the number of disabled children who have been born and survived spite their illnesses due to advancements in care. Also, statistically speaking, people of the past had more children - and they died more often of routine childhood illnesses like infections.

    But none of this makes for solid debate since it's all presumption - we only have statistics that we can rely on for our country within the last 50 to 75 years - before that and even our own records are spotty at best.
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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Stories of horror inflicted upon helpless children are the worst. They make me physically ill. I can't wrap my mind around that kind of cruelty.

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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Rightwingers don't believe in facts. They have a leftist bias
    What on earth does what he stated have to do with "right wingers"? As somewhat of a "right winger" myself, I do believe in the truth - because the truth has no agenda. But that has nothing to do with the OP nor the post you quoted. I have a novel idea, let's stick to the topic and stop derailing threads with nonsense shall we?

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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    As depressing as the stories in this thread are, there are still glimmers of good deeds by people.





    8/16/2011 9:42 PM

    Police: NM kidnapper thwarted by alert neighbor

    The pair of 911 calls came in quick succession from a New Mexico mobile home park.

    On one, a frantic 12-year-old says her little sister is missing. On the other is the wife of the man who would be credited with saving the 6-year-old from every parent's nightmare.

    "We are outside of my mom's house here," Martha Diaz told the dispatcher. "We heard a man going, `Hey, hey let her go. Let her go.' So we turn around ...

    "The man came running to us and said, `They stole a little girl.'"

    Phillip Garcia, 29, had snatched the girl moments earlier on Monday afternoon in Albuquerque, taking her away in a blue van, police said.

    Diaz's husband, Antonio Diaz Chacon, jumped in his black pickup and gave chase. Garcia tried to lose him by driving through a maze of residential streets, "turning, and turning," Diaz Chacon, a 24-year-old mechanic said Tuesday night as a swarm of media stood outside his home to hear his story. The events were interpreted and relayed from Spanish to English by his wife.

    Finally, Diaz Chacon said, the man crashed into a telephone pole.

    Garcia fled on foot, and Diaz Chacon grabbed the girl and took her home. Garcia then returned to his wrecked van and took off but was later captured by police, authorities said.

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    Re: Man Accused of Decapitating Disabled 7-year old Son

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We're just talking 'caregiver on cared for minor' statistics - whcih are spotty at best.

    But I see no evidence that people 100 years ago - or 500 years ago - were more tolerant or patient. What has changed, statistically, is the number of disabled children who have been born and survived spite their illnesses due to advancements in care. Also, statistically speaking, people of the past had more children - and they died more often of routine childhood illnesses like infections.

    But none of this makes for solid debate since it's all presumption - we only have statistics that we can rely on for our country within the last 50 to 75 years - before that and even our own records are spotty at best.
    OK thanks. I thought we were talking crime in general. Nevermind.

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