The road to Hell and the road to Jahannam is the same damn road.
I became a conservative by being around liberals. I became a libertarian by being around conservatives. ~ Greg Gutfeld.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
I just refuse to believe crime rates are down. Down from what and when? Every type of crime? Is it a long term trend or a blip? How is the data being reported? Could it be a lot of crimes are being underreported?
So...thats a 'no' on late term abortions?
But I see no evidence that people 100 years ago - or 500 years ago - were more tolerant or patient. What has changed, statistically, is the number of disabled children who have been born and survived spite their illnesses due to advancements in care. Also, statistically speaking, people of the past had more children - and they died more often of routine childhood illnesses like infections.
But none of this makes for solid debate since it's all presumption - we only have statistics that we can rely on for our country within the last 50 to 75 years - before that and even our own records are spotty at best.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
Stories of horror inflicted upon helpless children are the worst. They make me physically ill. I can't wrap my mind around that kind of cruelty.
As depressing as the stories in this thread are, there are still glimmers of good deeds by people.
8/16/2011 9:42 PM
Police: NM kidnapper thwarted by alert neighbor
The pair of 911 calls came in quick succession from a New Mexico mobile home park.
On one, a frantic 12-year-old says her little sister is missing. On the other is the wife of the man who would be credited with saving the 6-year-old from every parent's nightmare.
"We are outside of my mom's house here," Martha Diaz told the dispatcher. "We heard a man going, `Hey, hey let her go. Let her go.' So we turn around ...
"The man came running to us and said, `They stole a little girl.'"
Phillip Garcia, 29, had snatched the girl moments earlier on Monday afternoon in Albuquerque, taking her away in a blue van, police said.
Diaz's husband, Antonio Diaz Chacon, jumped in his black pickup and gave chase. Garcia tried to lose him by driving through a maze of residential streets, "turning, and turning," Diaz Chacon, a 24-year-old mechanic said Tuesday night as a swarm of media stood outside his home to hear his story. The events were interpreted and relayed from Spanish to English by his wife.
Finally, Diaz Chacon said, the man crashed into a telephone pole.
Garcia fled on foot, and Diaz Chacon grabbed the girl and took her home. Garcia then returned to his wrecked van and took off but was later captured by police, authorities said.