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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

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    Seriously? Go read something.
    What would you suggest I read?

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

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    I know what Co2 is but have seen noting that convinces me it is driving global warming.
    That's funny, because Savante Arrhenius figured out that CO2 absorbs radiated heat in 1896. Looks like you've got a little catching up to do in the literature.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

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    What would you suggest I read?
    IPCC AR4: The Physical Science Basis, Summary for Policymakers, 2007
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    What would you suggest I read?
    Here's a basic introduction: Climate Change Resource Center (CCRC): Climate Change Primer

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    That's funny, because Savante Arrhenius figured out that CO2 absorbs radiated heat in 1896. Looks like you've got a little catching up to do in the literature.
    So all I need to know is “Savante Arrhenius” and I will know all there is to know about AGW?

    May I suggest you tone it down with the snide insults? I have a tendency to be a bit aggressive myself but I’m in recovery.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    What should I look for? You can’t expect a simpleton like me to read all of it can you?

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    What should I look for? You can’t expect a simpleton like me to read all of it can you?
    Let me again suggest this: Climate Change Resource Center (CCRC): Climate Change Primer

    It's a relatively short read in plain English.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    So all I need to know is “Savante Arrhenius” and I will know all there is to know about AGW?
    No... you asked to see evidence that CO2 is "driving global warming." Svante Arrhenius was the first to describe the relationship between CO2 concentration and the absorption of radiated heat. Assuming you agree that CO2 levels have been rising for the last 250 years or so, due to the use of fossil fuels, you can put these two data points together to get an idea of what the problem is.

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    May I suggest you tone it down with the snide insults? I have a tendency to be a bit aggressive myself but I’m in recovery.
    Fair enough. Issues of science get me particularly animated. I apologize.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    What should I look for? You can’t expect a simpleton like me to read all of it can you?
    This one's one of my favorite parts. It shows just how big the effect of CO2 is, relative to other factors.

    figure2-20-l.jpg

    But this one's a classic too... it's the observed changes on the Earth's surface. Find the bigger versions from the other link.

    figure-spm-3.jpg
    Last edited by nijato; 08-17-11 at 12:41 AM.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    This one's one of my favorite parts. It shows just how big the effect of CO2 is, relative to other factors.

    figure2-20-l.jpg

    But this one's a classic too... it's the observed changes on the Earth's surface. Find the bigger versions from the other link.

    figure-spm-3.jpg
    Your charts are way too small to read. Even then, I'm certain I would need some background data to explain them.

    Can we agree that in the IPCC report you link to, conclusions were based upon models that were based upon proxy data such as ice cores and tree rings etc. and validated using satellite data?
    Last edited by GPS_Flex; 08-17-11 at 01:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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