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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Of course not. They have been a believer for years so I wouldn't expect them to quit cold turkey. It's just another case of showing where the models have used biased assumptions to come to the desired conclusion.
    Yes, that's exactly what Spencer's model is.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You shouldn't concede anything because NASA hasn't dismissed anything. A lawyer has.
    Truthfully, I agree with you, and am skeptical of the findings. But, the point is only to say that even if they are completely right about cirrus clouds, they are still completely wrong about AGW.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    All of that has been challenged. It's why AGW has been dismissed.
    ...by people that don't know better.

    Stick to economics and politics where you can just make stuff up without the need for controlled experiments, objective data, repeatability, or testable hypotheses.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    I hate to break this to you, guys, by Roy Spencer is clearly on a mission to try to discredit AGW theory and he has been discredited time and time again. Some years ago he received quite a bit of acclaim for "proving" that satellite data showed atmospheric temperature anomolies that were inconsistent with AGW theory. I think he even won some kind of award. The only problem was that his math was wrong, which he was later forced to acknowledge. In fact the data absolutely supported AGW and the award was rescinded. This has happened time and time again with his stunning discoveries. In short, notwithstanding his legitimate credentials, the guy has pretty much used up whatever credibility he may once have had. If you want to read more about Spencer's ridiculously bad science, it pretty well laid out here: Roy Spencer - RCwiki
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    If it costs money to emit carbon, less carbon will be put in the atmosphere. Whenever something is taxed, less of it will be produced, all other things remaining equal.
    That will change the climate how?

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    That will change the climate how?
    Really? You don't know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas driving global warming?

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    ...by people that don't know better.
    By people at large. There will be no cap and trade. Carbon tax, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    That will change the climate how?
    Seriously? Go read something.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    By people at large. There will be no cap and trade. Carbon tax, etc.
    People at large and people that don't know better are not mutually exclusive groups. Much to my dismay, I also agree with your prediction about carbon taxation.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Really? You don't know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas driving global warming?
    I know what Co2 is but have seen nothing that convinces me it is driving global warming.
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