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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The company, based in Marlboro, Massachusetts, blamed the bankruptcy on increased competition from government-subsidized solar-panel makers in China and the failure of the U.S. to adopt clean-energy policies.

    I always get a kick out of the statements made and the message not quite said. They are right that you can not compete with subsidized Chinese made products, especially when the U.S. government assists in that. We knew that going in but still threw the money away. I've stated my simply solution many times.

    Seems to me that the second statement is a complaint that like with lightbulbs, the government has failed to force people to buy solar energy.
    There's some serious irony in that statement.

    "The government subsidizes - they fail - because the government still encourages and supports international companies who are in competition and fails to enact measure sthat would put the power back in the hands of local businesses"

    LOL

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Unfortunately free markets don't really take climate change into account.
    Or the future effects of pollution on any number of health issues. At the gas pump you aren't paying your share of the extra cases of lung cancer that burning fossil fuels causes.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Unfortunately free markets don't really take climate change into account.
    Why should the markets take climate change into account? It isn’t like there is anything the markets can do to change the climate.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Wind and solar manufacturers emit pollutants as well, why stop at Co2?
    why indeed? The problem here is that ecosystem components such as clean air, water, and soil have no economic value in the current system - that's a problem. But yes - let's also put a cost on mercury, sulfur, nitrogen oxides, and all of the other toxins released by coal-fired electricity generation and other industrial processes. And yes - solar and wind should pay these same costs, commensurate with the emissions that their manufacture and use causes.
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    Even with the externalities of coal and oil priced into the cost, they are still cheaper than wind and solar.
    Clearly, that would depend on the costs imposed.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Why should the markets take climate change into account? It isn’t like there is anything the markets can do to change the climate.
    If it costs money to emit carbon, less carbon will be put in the atmosphere. Whenever something is taxed, less of it will be produced, all other things remaining equal.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    While I am sorry to hear of more job losses, I am not surprised that is happening as more and more people are waking up to the HOAX "Global Warming is.

    About a week ago NASA put to rest the HOAX with a report that basically it's all BS and man have going on nothing to do with is the natural cycle.

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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    While I am sorry to hear of more job losses, I am not surprised that is happening as more and more people are waking up to the HOAX "Global Warming is.

    About a week ago NASA put to rest the HOAX with a report that basically it's all BS and man have going on nothing to do with is the natural cycle.
    What? No they didn't.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Read the story. NASA says those who promote the idea the greenhouse gases are man caused etc. alarmists, that makes their position a HOAX.

    The environmentally ill who back this HOAX are in it either for the money those who run the groups who make 6 figure salaries and then there are followers who do all grunt work for nothing because they fell for the BS.

    Hell Al Gores movie can't be show in schools in the UK unless there is a warning given that it contains a number of glaring errors.

    New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    While I am sorry to hear of more job losses, I am not surprised that is happening as more and more people are waking up to the HOAX "Global Warming is.

    About a week ago NASA put to rest the HOAX with a report that basically it's all BS and man have going on nothing to do with is the natural cycle.
    Shhhh! Just because you're ignorant of science and don't know better, don't go parading it around town for everyone to see! It's better to keep you mouth shut and let everyone suspect you're a fool...
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    Re: Evergreen Solar files for bankruptcy, plans asset sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Read the story. NASA says those who promote the idea the greenhouse gases are man caused etc. alarmists, that makes their position a HOAX.
    What? I'd love to respond, but your command of the English language doesn't permit me to do so. If you think that humans don't put CO2 in the atmosphere when they burn things like fossil fuels... which it seems you may be saying... you're absolutely. completely. wrong. As a matter of fact, that isn't what the story says. Also, you might note that in the article - which you didn't link too, it states:

    Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide
    oh. well. that sounds a little different, doesn't it? You see, I'm not a geophysicist, and I haven't read this researcher's paper. But even if I assume it is totally accurate and correct (a big assumption), it does not change every other of the countless aspects of AGW theory that have been well documented and tested for decades. This is a common rhetorical device of anti-science writers of all stripes, but the refutation of a single detail in a wide-reaching theory does not destroy the theory. In fact, this is how science progresses and theories become stronger as new evidence is accumulated.

    I fear I waste my words on you though.
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