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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Conservative said:
Sounds like Obama is your man, go for it. Just think what he can do in 4 more years?
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Looks like we've achieved system meltdown again.

Circuits are overloaded and stuck in an endless loop.

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Conservative said:
Then stop the damn spending on social engineering that never solves a problem. There is no reason for a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and apparently nothing is going to change your mind. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty? If you keep more of what you earn do you really need this big of a Federal Govt?
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Most of the Govs spending to engineer social change takes place in the tax code. And who said anything about keeping most of the gov? And when did I ever mention I was liberal. People who don't agree with you aren't liberal.
 
Conservative said:
Sounds like Obama is your man, go for it. Just think what he can do in 4 more years?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
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Counting the debt from each respective presidents' first day in office, it increased an annual average of:

Reagan 22.5%
GHW Bush 15.2%
Obama 14.6%
Bush 10.7%
Carter 10.6%
Clinton 4.6%
 
pbrauer said:
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Counting the debt from each respective presidents' first day in office, it increased an annual average of:

Reagan 22.5%
GHW Bush 15.2%
Obama 14.6%
Bush 10.7%
Carter 10.6%
Clinton 4.6%
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
David D. said:
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Misterveritis said:
Nope. Ultimately it is the people. The Supremes are an intermediate step.
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Nope, the Constitution grants only the Supreme Court to be the ultimate arbitrator of all constitutional matters

Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--
 
The increase the last 6 presidents' budgets had on the debt after their first two budgets*

Reagan 38.0%
GHW Bush 28.3%
Obama 23.0%
Carter 18.3%
Bush 16.8%
Clinton 12.8%

* = Obama's second budget end September 30th, 2011
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Counting the debt from each respective presidents' first day in office, it increased an annual average of:

Reagan 22.5%
GHW Bush 15.2%
Obama 14.6%
Bush 10.7%
Carter 10.6%
Clinton 4.6%
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Debt by President

Reagan 900 billion to 2.6 trillion +1.7 trillion in 8 years

GHW Bush 2.6 trillion to 4.4 trillion +1.8 trillion in four years

Clinton 4.4 trillion to 5.7 trillion +1.3 trillion in 8 years

GW Bush 5.7 trillion to 10.6 trillion +4.9 trillion in 8 years

Obama 10.6 trillion to 14.6 trillion +4 trillion in 3 years.

Think anyone today cares about previous President's addition to the debt or percentage change? The issue today is the failure of Obamanomics as has been posted many times but ignored.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
The increase the last 6 presidents' budgets had on the debt after their first two budgets*

Reagan 38.0%
GHW Bush 28.3%
Obama 23.0%
Carter 18.3%
Bush 16.8%
Clinton 12.8%

* = Obama's second budget end September 30th, 2011
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Don't you have to submit and have approved a budget before you can claim credit for one?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Nope, the Constitution grants only the Supreme Court to be the ultimate arbitrator of all constitutional matters

Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--
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"We" can change it after the court has ruled on it.
 
Conservative said:
Debt by President

Reagan 900 billion to 2.6 trillion +1.7 trillion in 8 years

GHW Bush 2.6 trillion to 4.4 trillion +1.8 trillion in four years

Clinton 4.4 trillion to 5.7 trillion +1.3 trillion in 8 years

GW Bush 5.7 trillion to 10.6 trillion +4.9 trillion in 8 years

Obama 10.6 trillion to 14.6 trillion +4 trillion in 3 years.
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Are you using real or nominal dollars this time con?:lamo

Think anyone today cares about previous President's addition to the debt or percentage change?
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Yes I think people do care especially economists.
 
winston53660 said:
So we're going from comparing Presidents and what they added to the debt to this now?
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Nope, we are going to compare Presidents on the amount of debt service on the debt so answer the question, real or nominal dollars since debt service is a cost to the taxpayers
 
Conservative said:
Nope, we are going to compare Presidents on the amount of debt service on the debt so answer the question, real or nominal dollars since debt service is a cost to the taxpayers
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What a surprise, Winston isn't so quick to respond when confused by facts. Let me help you, Winston, nominal numbers are used to determine debt service, real numbers are the elite attempt to compare administrations for political purposes and actually mean very little. Nominal dollars are what people spend at the time and what determines GDP thus impacts govt. revenue.
 
Conservative said:
What a surprise, Winston isn't so quick to respond when confused by facts. Let me help you, Winston, nominal numbers are used to determine debt service, real numbers are the elite attempt to compare administrations for political purposes and actually mean very little. Nominal dollars are what people spend at the time and what determines GDP thus impacts govt. revenue.
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Sorry Conservative you just are not very high on my list of people to respond to. And yes I know nominal dollars are what are used to service the debt today. A Debt that started 30 years ago when we turned from creditor nation to a debtor nation. And Obama gets none of those benefits of having a paid off credit card like Reagan did. So really your point is moot except from a hyper partitions POV.
 
winston53660 said:
Sorry Conservative you just are not very high on my list of people to respond to. And yes I know nominal dollars are what are used to service the debt today. A Debt that started 30 years ago when we turned from creditor nation to a debtor nation. And Obama gets none of those benefits of having a paid off credit card like Reagan did. So really your point is moot except from a hyper partitions POV.
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We were a debt nation far before thirty years ago. So really your point is moot except from a hyper partitions POV.
 
winston53660 said:
Sorry Conservative you just are not very high on my list of people to respond to. And yes I know nominal dollars are what are used to service the debt today. A Debt that started 30 years ago when we turned from creditor nation to a debtor nation. And Obama gets none of those benefits of having a paid off credit card like Reagan did. So really your point is moot except from a hyper partitions POV.
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Hasn't stopped you before so I don't believe that I am not very high on your list to respond to. Interesting how you have attacked all previous Presidents but have yet to say if you support Obama and will vote for him in 2012? What is it about his results that warrant support?
 
Henrin said:
We were a debt nation far before thirty years ago. So really your point is moot except from a hyper partitions POV.
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I suggest you look at our trade deficit now compared to 30 years ago.
 
Conservative said:
Hasn't stopped you before so I don't believe that I am not very high on your list to respond to. Interesting how you have attacked all previous Presidents but have yet to say if you support Obama and will vote for him in 2012? What is it about his results that warrant support?
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You just don't get it do you. I'm not here to blindly root for a friggen President or a god damn political party!
 
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