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I don't know about half, but a lot of them are unemployed. A lot of others are full-time students or retired people living on fixed incomes.

None of those are unemployed, we have a working population today of 139 million and 47% of those people pay zero in FIT. Stop buying what other liberals tell you. Get the facts.
 
None of those are unemployed, we have a working population today of 139 million and 47% of those people pay zero in FIT. Stop buying what other liberals tell you. Get the facts.

Got a link?
 
That doesn't address Adam's point about students, fixed income, etc......

That addresses the number of working people in this country. If a student is working then they are included, if not they aren't.
 
That addresses the number of working people in this country. If a student is working then they are included, if not they aren't.

If you don't want to address his points fine. But I fyou don't want to do that why bother posting here or replying to his posts?
 
Obviously you are an expert on what people can afford or not afford. You telling me that income earners cannot pay something to the Federal Govt. for the services they use?
Seriously, this is foreign to you? The fact is that the low income earners - those that live paycheck to paycheck - pay a higher percentage of their income on all taxes than the wealthy do.

Again, those people who pay no federal income taxes have enough deductions to reduce their taxable income to zero. Here is the tax table for 2011:



Married Filing JointlyMarried Filing SeparatelySingleHead of Household
MarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax Brackets
Tax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not Over
10.0%$0$17,00010.0%$0$8,50010.0%$0$8,50010.0%$0$12,150
15.0%$17,000$69,00015.0%$8,500$34,50015.0%$8,500$34,50015.0%$12,150$46,250
25.0%$69,000$139,35025.0%$34,500$69,67525.0%$34,500$83,60025.0%$46,250$119,400
28.0%$139,350$212,30028.0%$69,675$106,15028.0%$83,600$174,40028.0%$119,400$193,350
33.0%$212,300$379,15033.0%$106,150$189,57533.0%$174,400$379,15033.0%$193,350$379,150
35.0%$379,150-35.0%$189,575-35.0%$379,150-35.0%$379,150-
Note: Last law to change rates was the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
 
If you don't want to address his points fine. But I fyou don't want to do that why bother posting here or replying to his posts?

Learn how to use bls.gov and get the facts before making a post. BLS counts income earning workers that are full time and that number totals today a little over 139 million, 47% of that number pays zero in FIT. That is the reality that liberals like you want to ignore
 
None of those are unemployed, we have a working population today of 139 million and 47% of those people pay zero in FIT. Stop buying what other liberals tell you. Get the facts.
And let me remind you that you called that "Socialist." But we have 47% of workers not paying tax because of Bush's tax cuts which makes him a Socialist for passing Socialist taxes; which makes you a Socialist for voting for a Socialist president and supporting his Socialist policies, ipso facto.
 
Posted it many times, but apparently you are too busy looking for a gotcha moment that you ignored the link.

Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.
 
Seriously, this is foreign to you? The fact is that the low income earners - those that live paycheck to paycheck - pay a higher percentage of their income on all taxes than the wealthy do.

Again, those people who pay no federal income taxes have enough deductions to reduce their taxable income to zero. Here is the tax table for 2011:



Married Filing JointlyMarried Filing SeparatelySingleHead of Household
MarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax BracketsMarginalTax Brackets
Tax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not OverTax RateOverBut Not Over
10.0%$0$17,00010.0%$0$8,50010.0%$0$8,50010.0%$0$12,150
15.0%$17,000$69,00015.0%$8,500$34,50015.0%$8,500$34,50015.0%$12,150$46,250
25.0%$69,000$139,35025.0%$34,500$69,67525.0%$34,500$83,60025.0%$46,250$119,400
28.0%$139,350$212,30028.0%$69,675$106,15028.0%$83,600$174,40028.0%$119,400$193,350
33.0%$212,300$379,15033.0%$106,150$189,57533.0%$174,400$379,15033.0%$193,350$379,150
35.0%$379,150-35.0%$189,575-35.0%$379,150-35.0%$379,150-
Note: Last law to change rates was the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.

Do you have a point? What does that have to do with the 47% of income earners that don't pay any FIT? Those living paycheck to paycheck still have a personal responsibility to pay for what they use and that is the point you continue to miss. You don't know what their living expenses are but think with your heart and judge everyone else by your own standards. To say that income earners cannot pay something net to the Federal govt. for services used is ridiculous and naive.
 
Learn how to use bls.gov and get the facts before making a post.full time and that number totals today a little over 139 million, 47% of that number pays zero in FIT. That is the reality that liberals like you want to ignore

And confuse (possibly intentionally) real and nominal numbers like you do?
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.

Yeah, what is your point? You say we have a revenue problem? If so you now know where to go to get it. Plus there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans that are paying very little in FIT as well. That makes around 90 million Americans paying little if any in FIT
 
And let me remind you that you called that "Socialist." But we have 47% of workers not paying tax because of Bush's tax cuts which makes him a Socialist for passing Socialist taxes; which makes you a Socialist for voting for a Socialist president and supporting his Socialist policies, ipso facto.

Let me remind you that I have never said we have a revenue problem but instead have a spending problem. I am the one here that doesn't care how much you make and believe you should keep more of what you earn and the fact that doesn't hurt the economy at all.
 
What does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT?

Uh it was in response to what you posted about learning to use the BLS website.

Are you getting "confused"again?
 
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Uh it was in response to what you posted about learning to use the BLS website.

It was non responsive to the fact posted and has nothing to do with nominal or real numbers which were created to compare years so what does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT
 
Yeah, what is your point? You say we have a revenue problem? If so you now know where to go to get it. Plus there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans that are paying very little in FIT as well. That makes around 90 million Americans paying little if any in FIT
It's so obvious that we have a revenue problem, before the Bush tax cuts we were getting our debt under control. Eliminate ALL the Bush tax cuts and you should see fiscal sanity return.
 
That addresses the number of working people in this country. If a student is working then they are included, if not they aren't.
Wouldn't that also include unemployed people collecting unemployment checks since that is also subject to federal income tax?
 
It was non responsive to the fact posted and has nothing to do with nominal or real numbers which were created to compare years so what does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT

One more time. And I will type this real slow.

It was in response to your telling me to learn to use BLS.

Odd some one that "confuses" real and nominal numbers is lecturing on how to use BLS......
 
It's so obvious that we have a revenue problem, before the Bush tax cuts we were getting our debt under control. Eliminate ALL the Bush tax cuts and you should see fiscal sanity return.

Before the Clinton recession and 9/11 we had a growing economy, before the financial meltdown we had a growing economy and growing jobs. Eliminate the Bush tax cuts? why don't you send yours back when you get a paycheck? Why does the govt. have to raise taxes on everyone for you to do what you believe is the right thing to do? How does raising taxes put 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans back to work? When will "your" President create the environment for the private sector to grow jobs? First he offered a stimulus plan that was to create jobs and it failed as there are more unemployed now than when he took office. After seeing this instead of focusing on job growth he moved to Obamacare which again shows his incompetence.
 
Hey, look at that ... your link appears to be calling you a liar too.

You said 47% of "workers" paid no FIT ... the article you linked said 47% of "U.S. households."

Exactly. And now he will disappear and make the same false claim tomorrow, as if it never happened. :lol:
 
One more time. And I will type this real slow.

It was in response to your telling me to learn to use BLS.

Odd some that "confuses" real and nominal numbers is lecturing on how to use BLS......

Interesting how some ignore data and continue to divert from that data. Are the Obama numbers real or nominal when it relates to unemployment and are the U.S. Treasury numbers showing income earners real or nominal numbers?
 
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