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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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Won't make what real, actual numbers?
It's your bastardization of actual numbers which will never be true. Such as attributing Bush's budget results for FY2009 to Obama. That's nothing more than a figment of your overzealous imagination. Again, you can repeat it another 10,000 times, and you will, and it will still never be true.
 
It's your bastardization of actual numbers which will never be true. Such as attributing Bush's budget results for FY2009 to Obama. That's nothing more than a figment of your overzealous imagination. Again, you can repeat it another 10,000 times, and you will, and it will still never be true.

Just like you blame Bush for the Clinton budget numbers in 2001 and Reagan for the Carter budget in 1981? The more I repeat it the more people finally catch on to the poor choice they made in 2008 and won't make that mistake again. Liberals like you have such low standards when it comes to one of your own that you don't have a problem spending as much as Obama spent and generating the numbers I posted. That by any definition is a failure, which you cannot admit
 

So? So, GDP growth projected at 1.3% in second qtr 2011 has been downgraded to 1% GDP Growth showing once again the failure of Obama and Obamanomics. First qtr 2011, October 2010-December 2010 .4%, Second Qtr 2011, January-March 1%. Such low standards for the dollars spent?
 
When did the Sheik ever do that?

BTW the Treasury reported a surplus :

The Treasury Department reported a budget surplus for the fiscal year, which ended on Sept. 30, of $127 billion, compared with $237 billion a year ago.
U.S. budget surplus shrinks in 2001 - Oct. 29, 2001

Like all liberals you keep saying the same thing over and over again expecting it to come true. When you borrow money and put it in the budget that doesn't create a surplus if you don't offset that borrowing with a liability line item and since it was taken from Intergovt. holdings there is no line item on the budget to show that. Hope they took your SS money to show that surplus.
 
Unions were created to better balance the interests of the employees and the employer.
The people of the state in question employ the members of a public sector union.

So... public sector unions are not competing against the interests of "the man", but "the people".

Given that, there's every reason to limit these unions and what they can bargain for.

Didn't President Kennedy by executive order (so much for rule of law) declared public employee unions legal (where they were banned before) as a way to bring in cash to Democrat coffers???

It has also brought the states and the union to near financial catastrophe. Like most other Democrat policies, BTW...
 
Like all liberals you keep saying the same thing over and over again expecting it to come true.

No dude that is your gig.

When you borrow money and put it in the budget that doesn't create a surplus if you don't offset that borrowing with a liability line item and since it was taken from Intergovt. holdings there is no line item on the budget to show that. Hope they took your SS money to show that surplus.

Then convince me of it. You rarely back yourself up in any credible way.

Hello nominal vs real numbers.............:2wave:
 
That's a strawman. First prove this ...

Strawman? No. I simply asked a question that you want to deflect because the constitution is clear.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

If you are going to pursue getting me to refute what you say then you must take the whole section into account. See, the exact powers are laid out as to what these duties, taxes, and excises are meant to be spent on. Anything outside of these specific powers is left to the states.

j-mac
 
So? So, GDP growth projected at 1.3% in second qtr 2011 has been downgraded to 1% GDP Growth showing once again the failure of Obama and Obamanomics. First qtr 2011, October 2010-December 2010 .4%, Second Qtr 2011, January-March 1%. Such low standards for the dollars spent?
So what does that have to do with the article you posted?

Can't you keep up?
 
Like all liberals you keep saying the same thing over and over again expecting it to come true. When you borrow money and put it in the budget that doesn't create a surplus if you don't offset that borrowing with a liability line item and since it was taken from Intergovt. holdings there is no line item on the budget to show that. Hope they took your SS money to show that surplus.

You can't create a surplus by borrowing money to pay off the debt. That would make the liabilities increase, not assets.

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That would be a first....

j-mac

I seriously blame Obama for letting wall street crooks get off the hook

And next I will jump on the FDA appointment.
 
So what does that have to do with the article you posted?

Can't you keep up?

Did you read the article? the purpose of posting it was to show you the very poor economic growth for the second qtr 2011 which of course supports the numbers I posted. So tell me again how I distort the numbers?
 
Strawman? No. I simply asked a question that you want to deflect because the constitution is clear.



If you are going to pursue getting me to refute what you say then you must take the whole section into account. See, the exact powers are laid out as to what these duties, taxes, and excises are meant to be spent on. Anything outside of these specific powers is left to the states.

j-mac
Which includes this from the first paragraph,


To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;​


I thought you were trying to establish the agument that providing for the general welfare of the nation was not an enumerated power. If you weren't, my apologies.
 
Which includes this from the first paragraph,


To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;​


I thought you were trying to establish the agument that providing for the general welfare of the nation was not an enumerated power. If you weren't, my apologies.

Note the semi colon use here denoting that the following list of items lays out the prior statement of taxation for the general welfare....In other words the general welfare was listed as those powers written.

j-mac
 
The fact of the matter is that unions are not the problem. The fact is that there is little or no correlation between states' budget woes and the degree of collective bargaining they confer on public sector employees. In other words, this is a BS issue that Republicans flog because they know that unions traditionally support democratic candidates.

You get a public employee (federal) who is about to be unionized. His agency is about to hold an election on unionization that he knows his side (non-unionization) will lose. He will be forced to pay money out of every ****ing check to a union that he doesn't want that will end up giving my dues to a political party that he ****ing hates.......the modern incarnation of the Democtac party as selfish traitors, more or less, and the dues taken (not given) from him will now go to fund them.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, 'San Serif']H[/FONT]ow much he donates to FERS every paycheck. About $10 per paycheck. The taxpayer makes up the rest (YOU).

Ridiculous and is totally unsustainable in fiscal terms...
 
[Not] asked but answered. Next time, pay attention in class.

Your answer was inadequate and doesn't address the terrible record the last 2 1/2 years but mostly year 2011. Seems you have such low standards and wonder how those standards would sit with your boss if you went to him and told him that you wanted to spend all that money and end up with worse results than you have right now? Let me know how that discussion goes?
 
Your answer was inadequate and doesn't address the terrible record the last 2 1/2 years but mostly year 2011. Seems you have such low standards and wonder how those standards would sit with your boss if you went to him and told him that you wanted to spend all that money and end up with worse results than you have right now? Let me know how that discussion goes?
Otay. Consider yourself on record as not liking my answer.
 
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