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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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sangha said:
It's OK If You're a Rightwinger IOKIYAR

Rightwingers believe the first $10T of debt is not a problem.
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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I know, I know. I'm just amazed how the debt can go from $0.9T and 32% of GDP to $12T and 83% of GDP before it finally became a problem for you. Seems to me to be like not having a problem with a flood in your house until the waters reach the roof. I do know for some people, the national debt wasn't a problem until Obama became president. Is that the case with you?
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Well I tried to explain that it was not just the debt but you weren't that interested.

Some debt is understandable and it's not a problem if solid management is in place, and it was never an international concern until recently. But the American people elected a man who was obviously not ready to hold any responsibility position in government and no one is quite certain yet of the long term damage he has done, and can yet do, to the United States.

It will take an enormous effort to get out of the mess and, like the UK, it doesn't appear that the will is yet there. Many people were suspicious of his Presidency because he lacked any obvious qualifications, but he had to have a bit of a chance. But it became clear quite early that he was well out of his depth and his record sustains this negative opinion.
 
Conservative said:
AdamT said:
Yep, you can certainly see how approval ratings distinguish between Reagan and Obama

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Reagan had an economic plan that was working and led to a landslide re-election. What is the Obama economic plan?

What was the Reagan economic results 2 years after the end of the recession vs. Obama's?
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Like Sheik said earlier, Reagan raised taxes;
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Grant said:
Well I tried to explain that it was not just the debt but you weren't that interested.

Some debt is understandable and it's not a problem if solid management is in place, and it was never an international concern until recently. But the American people elected a man who was obviously not ready to hold any responsibility position in government and no one is quite certain yet of the long term damage he has done, and can yet do, to the United States.

It will take an enormous effort to get out of the mess and, like the UK, it doesn't appear that the will is yet there. Many people were suspicious of his Presidency because he lacked any obvious qualifications, but he had to have a bit of a chance. But it became clear quite early that he was well out of his depth and his record sustains this negative opinion.
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Lets be perfectly clear here, the mess didn't start under Obama's watch, it started under Bush's watch.
 
GPS_Flex said:
I did comment on this already. To reiterate, the GOP has low numbers because a large portion of the tea party is made up of conservatives (folks who would typically vote republican) who aren’t going to cut the GOP any slack until they get serious about cutting spending, government regulations and deal with the debt.
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Well what do you know, that is the same reason Democrats disapprove of Obama's presidency, he hasn't been serious about eliminating the tax cuts for the rich, holding out for a public option, or ending the ME wars fast enough. :sun
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
What Conservative reveals about himself is that he doesn't understand how the process works. The president submits a budget proposal and the Congress irons out all the details before sending a budget bill back to the president for his or her final approval.
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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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That is a problem... one that's not due to improve very much.
 
AdamT said:
Conservative said:
Not just use taxes. He signed the biggest corporate tax increase in our history.
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This coming from someone who supports the Obama tax increases on the rich? Now that is really funny but very hypocrital. Raising taxes on those evil corporations should make you proud
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AdamT said:
Conservative said:
Obama Backs Corporate Rate Cut Along With Tax Simplification - Bloomberg
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After 2 1/2 years you continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance. From your article

Representative David Camp, a Michigan Republican who chairs the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said he was “disappointed” by the lack of details in Obama’s call for a tax overhaul.

“I think it could have used a little bit more on his proposals on individual tax reform,” Camp said in an interview after the speech. “Frankly, we really need more of a path forward even on the corporate side. I think we need some more concrete plans.”
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Conservative said:
AdamT said:
After 2 1/2 years you continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance. From your article
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Perhaps Representative Camp should know that Congress writes legislation, not the President. Was there something about lower the top statutory rate and eliminate loopholes he didn't understand?
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Ockham said:
I just wanted to know which plan you were talking about... if I went and searched for the wrong one that's just more troll fodder you see. So the plan was the budget plan. Ok... yeah I read through that already.
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Hey, let's see if you get as good a laugh out of this as I did ...


Ockham: "Can you link to the plan? I'd like to read it."

Ockham: "Anyone? A link? Does a link exist?"

Conservative: "You can get a link to a speech but not to a specific plan as there was none. He said in his speech he wanted cuts to unnamed entitlements and other areas but nothing specific. That to a liberal is a plan."

Grant: "It's that missing link again."

Ockham: "So Congress formally rejected a speech? That'd be a first. So Sheik was incorrect when he said "He" (Obama) proposed a plan to Congress. And Sheik was also incorrect in saying they (Congress) rejected this phantom plan. Is that right?"

Conservative: "Sounds about right to me"

Conservative: "I don't know for sure, we will have to get that information from Sheik as apparently he has special access to Obama's phantom plan with specific cuts and actual details."

Sheik Yerbuti: "Whassamatter? Don't you know how to use Google?" Budget Overview | The White House​


It's like none of you ever heard the saying, "don't count your chickens until they hatch," before.

:lamo
 
AdamT said:
Conservative said:
Perhaps Representative Camp should know that Congress writes legislation, not the President. Was there something about lower the top statutory rate and eliminate loopholes he didn't understand?
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You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric without getting details. Not surprising that you are an Obama supporter.
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Hey, let's see if you get as good a laugh out of this as I did ...


Ockham: "Can you link to the plan? I'd like to read it."

Ockham: "Anyone? A link? Does a link exist?"

Conservative: "You can get a link to a speech but not to a specific plan as there was none. He said in his speech he wanted cuts to unnamed entitlements and other areas but nothing specific. That to a liberal is a plan."

Grant: "It's that missing link again."

Ockham: "So Congress formally rejected a speech? That'd be a first. So Sheik was incorrect when he said "He" (Obama) proposed a plan to Congress. And Sheik was also incorrect in saying they (Congress) rejected this phantom plan. Is that right?"

Conservative: "Sounds about right to me"

Conservative: "I don't know for sure, we will have to get that information from Sheik as apparently he has special access to Obama's phantom plan with specific cuts and actual details."

Sheik Yerbuti: "Whassamatter? Don't you know how to use Google?" Budget Overview | The White House​


It's like none of you ever heard the saying, "don't count your chickens until they hatch," before.

:lamo
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Well with you Sheik, unless someone actually corners you... you squirm around a lot. That's why I don't "use Google" as you put it. I want you to point to exactly what your talking about.
 
Conservative said:
You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric without getting details. Not surprising that you are an Obama supporter.
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Hey, Conservative, you're slacking.

You forgot to post your usual:

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

How come you don't just make that your signature? Then you don't have to worry about not remembering to post it.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Ouch! :lamo

Hey, Con, you never did answer my question before ... don't you ever tire of constantly being schooled?
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Yep, that is why I have come on board as a liberal. You don't have to have any principles and can always blame someone else for your failures. We really need to get Bush out of the WH and to quit interferring with Obama's recovery. We cannot have these kind of numbers associated with Obama since they are all Bush's fault

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric without getting details. Not surprising that you are an Obama supporter.
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Do you ever get tired of demonstrating what an unabashed hypocrite you are?

Obama's budget message to the Congress for FY2012 -- 6½ pages

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy12/pdf/BUDGET-2012-BUD-1.pdf

Bush's budget message to the Congress for FY2002 -- half of one page.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy02/pdf/budget.pdf

:lamo :lamo :lamo

And you voted for him as many as 8 times when including primaries and his two terms as Governor.



"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." ~ George Bush, May 5, 2000
 
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