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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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Sheik Yerbuti said:
First you say he had no plan ... I showed you where he spoke about his plan at George Washington University.

After you learned that he did indeed have a plan which he spoke about at George Washington University and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts to claim, ok so he did speak about his plan at GWU, but he didn't propse that plan to Congress ... then I showed you not only did he propose that plan to Congress, but it was largely the reason why not a single Senator voted for it.

After you learned that he did indeed propose the plan he spoke about at GWU to Congress and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts again, this time to claim, ok so he propose the plan he spoke about at GWU to Congress, but it wasn't a plan to reduce the debt or deficit ... then I pointed out your opinion of what would work to reduce the deficit is meaningless in terms of the fact that Obama did propose a plan to Congress.


After you learned that he did indeed propose a plan to Congress and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts yet again, this time to claim, ok so if he proposed a plan to Congress, why is there no link to it on the Internet ... then I posted the link you claim didn't exist.

Now you move the goal posts again. You should become a coach in the NFL. The way you move goal posts, no team could score a field goal on you.
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And you should work on the Obama campaign for you can spin just as great as he can. There was no specific plan, there was an outline and and overview. Obama isn't good with specifics but like you is good at diversion, placing blame, and never accepting responsibility. Obama has made a lot of claims over the past 2 1/2 years and I don't recall one economic prediction being right so if it isn't on paper, isn't specific, hasn't been scored it means nothing. His claims of 4 trillion in cuts aren't specific and thus you have no idea if they are cuts at all. CBO doesn't score speeches but they will give you a distorted number that you will buy as fact.
 
Conservative said:
And you should work on the Obama campaign for you can spin just as great as he can. There was no specific plan, there was an outline and and overview. Obama isn't good with specifics but like you is good at diversion, placing blame, and never accepting responsibility. Obama has made a lot of claims over the past 2 1/2 years and I don't recall one economic prediction being right so if it isn't on paper, isn't specific, hasn't been scored it means nothing. His claims of 4 trillion in cuts aren't specific and thus you have no idea if they are cuts at all. CBO doesn't score speeches but they will give you a distorted number that you will buy as fact.
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The Budget | The White House
 
Conservative said:
97-0 vote against the Obama budget as there were no specific cuts and just a speech and an outline. His approval rating is at 39% for a reason.
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Don't be too hard on that poor 39%. Give 'em time. They're learning.
 
Conservative said:
97-0 vote against the Obama budget as there were no specific cuts and just a speech and an outline. His approval rating is at 39% for a reason.
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It was a nearly 200 page outline. Maybe you aren't aware of this, but it's actually the case that all spending bills have to originate in the House of Representatives -- not the White House.

The budget proposal didn't get any votes because it was already supplanted and only submitted for a vote because Republicans were crying about Ryan's budget going down in flames.
 
Conservative said:
And you should work on the Obama campaign for you can spin just as great as he can. There was no specific plan, there was an outline and and overview. Obama isn't good with specifics but like you is good at diversion, placing blame, and never accepting responsibility. Obama has made a lot of claims over the past 2 1/2 years and I don't recall one economic prediction being right so if it isn't on paper, isn't specific, hasn't been scored it means nothing. His claims of 4 trillion in cuts aren't specific and thus you have no idea if they are cuts at all. CBO doesn't score speeches but they will give you a distorted number that you will buy as fact.
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When did Bush put his plan for Social Security on 'paper?' FYI, Obama is "the decider" now.:roll:
 
AdamT said:
It was a nearly 200 page outline. Maybe you aren't aware of this, but it's actually the case that all spending bills have to originate in the House of Representatives -- not the White House.

The budget proposal didn't get any votes because it was already supplanted and only submitted for a vote because Republicans were crying about Ryan's budget going down in flames.
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Paul Ryans' budget proposal went "down in flames" 40-57 while BHO's went "down in flames" 0-97.

Barrack Obama is clearly the keeper of the flames.
 
pbrauer said:
When did Bush put his plan for Social Security on 'paper?' FYI, Obama is "the decider" now.:roll:
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What does Bush and SS have to do with the incompetent President we have right now and the issue of the Obama approval rating at 39%. Guess the majority in this country just aren't as smart as you.
 
Grant said:
Paul Ryans' budget proposal went "down in flames" 40-57 while BHO's went "down in flames" 0-97.

Barrack Obama is clearly the keeper of the flames.
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Republicans were trying to pass Ryan's budget. Democrats were not trying to pass Obama's because they were already contemplating additional spending cuts. Democrats did not submit for a vote -- Republicans did.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
... at what point over the last 30 years did our nation's debt become a problem for you?

Grant said:
Two years ago.
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Really? That's when??

Not when Reagan tripled the debt?

Not when GHW was on target to double it?

Not when his son nearly doubled it?

At the time Obama beecame president, Reagan and both Bush's alone increased the debt by 8 of the 10½ trillion that was passed on to Obama. It still wasn't a problem for you then?

Only after Obama became president and the debt increased another 12% while he's in the White House did it become a problem for you?

Can't say I understand why it's just recently a problem for you, I think the problem began under Reagan when it it began growing as a percentage of GDP.
 
Conservative said:
What does Bush and SS have to do with the incompetent President we have right now and the issue of the Obama approval rating at 39%. Guess the majority in this country just aren't as smart as you.
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Yep, you can certainly see how approval ratings distinguish between Reagan and Obama.

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AdamT said:
Yep, you can certainly see how approval ratings distinguish between Reagan and Obama

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Reagan had an economic plan that was working and led to a landslide re-election. What is the Obama economic plan?

What was the Reagan economic results 2 years after the end of the recession vs. Obama's?
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Conservative said:
AdamT said:
Yep, you can certainly see how approval ratings distinguish between Reagan and Obama

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Reagan had an economic plan that was working and led to a landslide re-election. What is the Obama economic plan?

What was the Reagan economic results 2 years after the end of the recession vs. Obama's?
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And as you can see, their approval ratings were almost identical after the first 50 or so days. Kinda shoots a hole in your approval rating theory, doesn't it?

btw, Reagan can thank Paul Volker for pulling his fat out of the fire.
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AdamT said:
Republicans were trying to pass Ryan's budget. Democrats were not trying to pass Obama's because they were already contemplating additional spending cuts. Democrats did not submit for a vote -- Republicans did.
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The Democrats clearly didn't want either budget while Ryan's budget at least had some support.

Poor BHO didn't get anyone's support.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Really? That's when??

Not when Reagan tripled the debt?

Not when GHW was on target to double it?

Not when his son nearly doubled it?

At the time Obama beecame president, Reagan and both Bush's alone increased the debt by 8 of the 10½ trillion that was passed on to Obama. It still wasn't a problem for you then?

Only after Obama became president and the debt increased another 12% while he's in the White House did it become a problem for you?

Can't say I understand why it's just recently a problem for you, I think the problem began under Reagan when it it began growing as a percentage of GDP.
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You asked me and I told you.
 
AdamT said:
Conservative said:
And as you can see, their approval ratings were almost identical after the first 50 or so days. Kinda shoots a hole in your approval rating theory, doesn't it?

btw, Reagan can thank Paul Volker for pulling his fat out of the fire.
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Not at all as evidenced by the fact that you cannot even cite the Obama economic plan for the rest of his first term. he has shot ever arrow he has and the results are as follows

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

Everyone knew the Reagan economic plan and the fact that you refuse to check out the actual results of Reagan 2 years after the end of the recession says it all.
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Grant said:
You asked me and I told you.
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I know, I know. I'm just amazed how the debt can go from $0.9T and 32% of GDP to $12T and 83% of GDP before it finally became a problem for you. Seems to me to be like not having a problem with a flood in your house until the waters reach the roof. I do know for some people, the national debt wasn't a problem until Obama became president. Is that the case with you?
 
sangha said:
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Hey, you're right. I did word that poorly. They controlled all three until January of this year when, thanks to a horrified electorate, the Republicans took over Congress.

But two years in absolute control brought nothing. That must be disappointing.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Really? That's when??

Not when Reagan tripled the debt?

Not when GHW was on target to double it?

Not when his son nearly doubled it?

At the time Obama beecame president, Reagan and both Bush's alone increased the debt by 8 of the 10½ trillion that was passed on to Obama. It still wasn't a problem for you then?

Only after Obama became president and the debt increased another 12% while he's in the White House did it become a problem for you?

Can't say I understand why it's just recently a problem for you, I think the problem began under Reagan when it it began growing as a percentage of GDP.
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It's OK If You're a Rightwinger IOKIYAR

Rightwingers believe the first $10T of debt is not a problem.
 
Grant said:
Hey, you're right. I did word that poorly. They controlled all three until January of this year when, thanks to a horrified electorate, the Republicans took over Congress.

But two years in absolute control brought nothing. That must be disappointing.
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You're still wrong
 
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