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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post

    when it come to reality, look around you and see whats its like right now....
    I "massaged" nothing. I gave you the number of people who lost their job in Bush's first 30 months compared to Obama's first 30 months.

    With a larger workforce than Bush had ...

    Losing 732,000 jobs in January, 2009 ...

    Losing another 3 million jobs during the next 5 months until the end of Bush's Great Recession ....

    Obama lost 2.4 million jobs ... Bush lost 3.2 million


    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post

    ....you can massage numbers all you want but the fact is i know a lot more people out of work NOW than i did 5 years ago
    I have no doubt you know more people now who are unemployed than you did 5 years ago. 8 million jobs were lost during Bush's Great Recession.

    That still doesn't mean that Bush, with a smaller work force, with an economy not nearly as bad as what Obama inherited, lost far more jobs than Obama during his first 30 months in office.

    Another poster said that Bush was better than Obama "by nearly every measure." Well so far, we've explored unemployment; and clearly Bush was not better by that measure.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I "massaged" nothing. I gave you the number of people who lost their job in Bush's first 30 months compared to Obama's first 30 months.

    With a larger workforce than Bush had ...

    Losing 732,000 jobs in January, 2009 ...

    Losing another 3 million jobs during the next 5 months until the end of Bush's Great Recession ....

    Obama lost 2.4 million jobs ... Bush lost 3.2 million



    I have no doubt you know more people now who are unemployed than you did 5 years ago. 8 million jobs were lost during Bush's Great Recession.

    That still doesn't mean that Bush, with a smaller work force, with an economy not nearly as bad as what Obama inherited, lost far more jobs than Obama during his first 30 months in office.

    Another poster said that Bush was better than Obama "by nearly every measure." Well so far, we've explored unemployment; and clearly Bush was not better by that measure.
    When exactly does this become the Obama economy in your world? Apparently shovel ready jobs were not so shovel ready after signing the Stimulus Act in February 2009. How do you explain more unemployed and a lower labor force today vs. when Obama took office after spending so much money?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    When exactly does this become the Obama economy in your world? Apparently shovel ready jobs were not so shovel ready after signing the Stimulus Act in February 2009. How do you explain more unemployed and a lower labor force today vs. when Obama took office after spending so much money?
    We lost 8 million jobs during the 19 month Bush reecssion. Obama claimed his stimulus would only save about 3 million of those. And even you [tacitly] heralded Obama's stimulus a rousing success when you pointed out the results of his stimulus plan saved 3 million jobs -- half a million more than he targeted.

    Had McCain been elected, there would have been no stimulus and there would now be an additional 3 million unemployed, bringing the total number of unemployed to around 29 million.

    Of course, you'd be defending McCain.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We lost 8 million jobs during the 19 month Bush reecssion. Obama claimed his stimulus would only save about 3 million of those. And even you [tacitly] heralded Obama's stimulus a rousing success when you pointed out the results of his stimulus plan saved 3 million jobs -- half a million more than he targeted.

    Had McCain been elected, there would have been no stimulus and there would now be an additional 3 million unemployed, bringing the total number of unemployed to around 29 million.

    Of course, you'd be defending McCain.
    So you keep saying, Bush wasn't in office in 2010 and 2011 and Bush had nothing to do with the results Obama has generated which of course you ignore. how do you explain the U.S. labor force dropping since Obama took office? how do you explain fewer people employed than when Obama took office? How do you explain the very poor economic results two years after the end of a recession? Your loyalty to Obama says a lot about you, apparently you need the nanny state he wants here

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    By nearly every measure....At least he didn't go around apologizing for America's existence.


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    do elaborate on this, give examples...and i don't believe he ever 'apologized' for America's 'existence'...

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    So you keep saying, Bush wasn't in office in 2010 and 2011 and Bush had nothing to do with the results Obama has generated which of course you ignore. how do you explain the U.S. labor force dropping since Obama took office? how do you explain fewer people employed than when Obama took office? How do you explain the very poor economic results two years after the end of a recession?
    I explain it as what you post is bull****. The effects of Bush's Great Recession don't get erased this quickly, it takes years. That's like saying Hoover's destruction of the economy wasn't still felt in 1935.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Your loyalty to Obama says a lot about you, apparently you need the nanny state he wants here
    And your constant lying says a lot about you. I've told you that I have a job and receive nothing from the "nanny state" you refer to. So stop with the lies already. You confuse me needing help with me wanting the state to help out those who do need it.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Another apparent Obama supporter. these people are allowed to vote?

    Woman named "Joe" from Boca Raton, Florida calls into a radio show... (Savage)
    you are allowed to vote, so what is your point?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I explain it as what you post is bull****. The effects of Bush's Great Recession don't get erased this quickly, it takes years. That's like saying Hoover's destruction of the economy wasn't still felt in 1935.


    And your constant lying says a lot about you. I've told you that I have a job and receive nothing from the "nanny state" you refer to. So stop with the lies already. You confuse me needing help with me wanting the state to help out those who do need it.
    Apparently the majority in this country aren't buying your bull****. Calling me a liar is what you do when you cannot refute the actual non partisan numbers presented. Bush didn't lose 8 million jobs and ended up with a net job gain. Obama got his stimulus passed for shovel ready jobs immediately after taking office and it failed by all measurements. You keep buying the rhetoric as I am sure he appreciates the very little support he is getting today. The liberal elites are laughing their asses off at you. The facts are there, more unemployed, fewer jobs, fewer employed, 4 trillion added to the debt, downgrade of our credit rating. yep, 2 1/2 years of liberal economic policy and total failure. Such low standards you have.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    And your constant lying says a lot about you. I've told you that I have a job and receive nothing from the "nanny state" you refer to. So stop with the lies already. You confuse me needing help with me wanting the state to help out those who do need it.
    When I was sitting in the ER carrying about 25 ponds of fluid in my ankles and legs and a panel of doctors in front of me said "Hello and welcome to the cardiac" about the last thing on my mind was ideological positions on the so called "nanny state."

    I was pretty much dieing at that moment.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    When I was sitting in the ER carrying about 25 ponds of fluid in my ankles and legs and a panel of doctors in front of me said "Hello and welcome to the cardiac" about the last thing on my mind was ideological positions on the so called "nanny state."

    I was pretty much dieing at that moment.
    Welcome to the best medical system in the world without Obamacare.

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