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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In a economy that has been down for this long there isn't ONE person to blame. The simple fact is this economy has been hurting for almost a decade.
    You are right but the blame is always going to go to the preisdent.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tax cuts, less regulations, reduction in the size of the govt would stimulate the private sector
    Obama already employed one of the largest tax cuts in US history; it was in the stimulus bill, as we've gone over before. Tax cuts also make the deficit situation worse, which is something you constantly go on about. You want to complain about the size of the deficit on the one hand, and then advocate cutting revenue OTOH, which will worsen deficits. Very sensible. Reducing the size of government, of course, increases unemployment. Only in wingnut world is it possible to reduce revenue to cut deficits and fire workers to lower unemployment. Insanity.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obama already employed one of the largest tax cuts in US history; it was in the stimulus bill, as we've gone over before. Tax cuts also make the deficit situation worse, which is something you constantly go on about. You want to complain about the size of the deficit on the one hand, and then advocate cutting revenue OTOH, which will worsen deficits. Very sensible. Reducing the size of government, of course, increases unemployment. Only in wingnut world is it possible to reduce revenue to cut deficits and fire workers to lower unemployment. Insanity.
    So we have been told and of course you bought. Compare the two tax cuts and tell me which one benefited YOU and the rest of the taxpayers the most? Are you still benefiting from the Obama tax cuts?

    You are going to continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and have to learn for yourself. Good luck, you are going to need it.


    Obame Tax cuts

    Total: $288 billion
    Tax cuts for individuals

    Total: $237 billion
    • $116 billion: New tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phase out begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers.[29]
    • $70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.[29]
    • $15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes).
    • $14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000.
    • $6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.[41]
    • $4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.
    • $4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers — for families with at least three children.
    • $4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.
    • $1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.

    Bush Tax cuts

    Between 2001 and 2003, the Bush administration instituted a federal tax cut for all taxpayers. Among other changes, the lowest income tax rate was lowered from 15% to 10%, the 27% rate went to 25%, the 30% rate went to 28%, the 35% rate went to 33%, and the top marginal tax rate went from 39.6% to 35%.[3] In addition, the child tax credit went from $500 to $1000, and the "marriage penalty" was reduced. Since the cuts were implemented as part of the annual congressional budget resolution, which protected the bill from filibusters, numerous amendments, and more than 20 hours of debate, it had to include a sunset clause. Unless congress passes legislation making the tax cuts permanent, they will expire in 2011.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Compare the two tax cuts and tell me which one benefited YOU and the rest of the taxpayers the most?
    Why are you always going back to Bush? Bush isn't the president now.

    But as you bring it up, the Bush tax cuts, of course, are a huge part of the problem and are the largest contributing cause to the deficits you endlessly whine abuot. Doubling down on tax cuts will only make the deficit situation worse, and would almost certainly lead to further credit rating cuts. That, in turn, would increase our borrowing costs and make deficits even worse.

    If you want to criticize Obama's policies try to come up with some alternative that at least passes the laugh test.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    GWB wasn't very conservative and your knowledge of CA Governors fails you. Oh, Texas is doing much better than CA when it comes to jobs.

    China comes to mind when you say ďland of the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobsĒ. Do you think we should ignore the fact that part of the reason we canít compete with China is that Americans are fat and lazy with union reps?

    Maybe you canít see the train coming but this isnít about rich people or white people or which state pays more per job than other states, this is about the survival of the USA and as such, we better realize that we canít have our cake and eat it too just because we were born American.

    Times change and Americans have always changed to adapt to the times.
    Sorry....but California has had Republican Governors for decades...with the exception of about 2 years of Davis, who was more of a Republican than most republicans are...so Sorry...but it is you who's knowledge fails you.

    As far as Texas and jobs....again....FAIL. Texas has the largest percentage of minimum wage jobs in the country. Texas is the model that the GOP wants? Basically, they are turning it into a Chinese Society, where the wealthy get more wealthy and the working class of America work for peanuts. Sorry...but that isn't the model that most of America wants.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why are you always going back to Bush? Bush isn't the president now.

    But as you bring it up, the Bush tax cuts, of course, are a huge part of the problem and are the largest contributing cause to the deficits you endlessly whine abuot. Doubling down on tax cuts will only make the deficit situation worse, and would almost certainly lead to further credit rating cuts. That, in turn, would increase our borrowing costs and make deficits even worse.

    If you want to criticize Obama's policies try to come up with some alternative that at least passes the laugh test.
    You brought up the Obama tax cuts as if it was 1. It benefited all taxpayers, and 2. it was the largest in history. If it all wasn't used how could it be the largest in history? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance.

    Nothing changes the mind of a liberal except time and experience. You too will grow up someday, I did.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    California has a Democrat Legislature and a RINO Republican. I laugh at people from California lecturing the rest of us on sound economic policy and job creation. You have little credibility but thanks for the laugh.
    Just as the rest of America laughs at the clowns in Texas that think that America wants to adopt a policy of unlimited welfare for corporations and minimum wage jobs for all.
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but California has had Republican Governors for decades...with the exception of about 2 years of Davis, who was more of a Republican than most republicans are...so Sorry...but it is you who's knowledge fails you.

    As far as Texas and jobs....again....FAIL. Texas has the largest percentage of minimum wage jobs in the country. Texas is the model that the GOP wants? Basically, they are turning it into a Chinese Society, where the wealthy get more wealthy and the working class of America work for peanuts. Sorry...but that isn't the model that most of America wants.
    LOL, Minimum wage jobs? Again the arrogant elite liberals. A job is a job is a job. TX has them and California doesn't. You totally ignored the post and the response. Some people never get it and you appear to be in that group. Think the Medical profession is minimum wage jobs? Think the influx of Fortune 500 companies ot TX creates minimum wage jobs? I prefer people working on any job including minimum wage jobs instead of sitting on their asses collecting taxpayer funded unemployment for two years.

    Amazing isn't it, that the people of TX continue to elect Conservatives with such a miserable economic record that you claim?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You brought up the Obama tax cuts as if it was 1. It benefited all taxpayers, and 2. it was the largest in history. If it all wasn't used how could it be the largest in history? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance.

    Nothing changes the mind of a liberal except time and experience. You too will grow up someday, I did.
    I said that the Obama tax cut was "one of" the largest ever, which it was, and it did benefit all tax payers (or at least WORKING tax payers) to the extent that more than half of it was a payroll tax cut.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, Minimum wage jobs? Again the arrogant elite liberals. A job is a job is a job. TX has them and California doesn't. You totally ignored the post and the response. Some people never get it and you appear to be in that group. Think the Medical profession is minimum wage jobs? Think the influx of Fortune 500 companies ot TX creates minimum wage jobs? I prefer people working on any job including minimum wage jobs instead of sitting on their asses collecting taxpayer funded unemployment for two years.

    Amazing isn't it, that the people of TX continue to elect Conservatives with such a miserable economic record that you claim?
    Texas' unemployment rate is rising. When you take population change into account Texas is 50 out of the 50 states in terms of job creation. Dead last, and by a large margin.



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