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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Your defense of Obama by using the Bush argument is indefensible.
    No it's not. Most people still blame Bush for the current economic conditions we face. How can something which most people believe be "indefensible?"

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    According to BLS there are fewer jobs today than when Obama took office ...
    That's because we lost 3½ million (of the 8 million) jobs during Bush's Great Recession after Obama became president. Since then, unemployment has fallen.

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    so seems that the Obama economic plan is to eliminate enough jobs to make the unemployment numbers look great. Keep defending Obama. Guess when Obama said he was going to focus on jobs he really meant in China. Great job, your vote gave us this incompetent President.
    Why on Earth do you think Obama has anything to do with that? Is Obama responsible for everything GE does because he placed their CEO to head a commission of his?

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    General Electric is planning to move its 115-year-old X-ray division from Waukesha, Wis., to Beijing. In addition to moving the headquarters, the company will invest $2 billion in China and train more than 65 engineers and create six research centers. This is the same GE that made $5.1 billion in the United States last year. but paid no taxes-the same company that employs more people overseas than it does in the united States.
    Are you upset that GE paid no taxes last year?

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    So let me get this straight. President Obama appointed GE Chairman Jeff Immelt to head his commission on job creation (job czar). Immelt is supposed to help create jobs. I guess the President forgot to tell him in which country he was supposed to be creating those jobs.
    You never answered my question ... Do you think because GE's CEO is on a board Obama commissioned, their company should pass on opportunities to do business overseas?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Love it, you judge Bush for what he did between October 2008 and June 2009 but cannot judge Obama on what he did 2 1/2 years after taking office? Brilliant. By the way guess those shovel ready jobs that passed in February 2009 weren't so shovel ready after all.
    Do mind commenting on this, where was Bush when all the red flags about the housing bubble and it effects back in 2005? Wasn't Bush President Then???? To quote The Prof:"leadership, anyone."

    Jun 16th 2005:

    The global housing boom: In come the waves | The Economist

    2006:

    Coming recession will be nastier than 2001's, economist says - MarketWatch
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Do mind commenting on this, where was Bush when all the red flags about the housing bubble and it effects back in 2005? Wasn't Bush President Then???? To quote The Prof:"leadership, anyone."

    Jun 16th 2005:

    The global housing boom: In come the waves | The Economist

    2006:

    Coming recession will be nastier than 2001's, economist says - MarketWatch
    Allow me to fill in for him in his absence ...

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Obamas approval rating is about twice as high as the republicans'
    We're waiting for the relevance of this comparison.
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    We're waiting for the relevance of this comparison.
    Here's a hint: who will Obama be running against in '12?

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    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    "Oxley hits back at ideologues
    By Greg Farrell in New York
    Published: September 9 2008 19:25 | Last updated: September 9 2008 19:25

    In the aftermath of the US Treasury’s decision to seize control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, critics have hit at lax oversight of the mortgage companies.

    The dominant theme has been that Congress let the two government-sponsored enterprises morph into a creature that eventually threatened the US financial system. Mike Oxley will have none of it.

    Instead, the Ohio Republican who headed the House financial services committee until his retirement after mid-term elections last year, blames the mess on ideologues within the White House as well as Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve.

    The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley, now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.

    He fumes about the criticism of his House colleagues. “All the handwringing and bedwetting is going on without remembering how the House stepped up on this,” he says. “What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

    The House bill, the 2005 Federal Housing Finance Reform Act, would have created a stronger regulator with new powers to increase capital at Fannie and Freddie, to limit their portfolios and to deal with the possibility of receivership.

    Mr Oxley reached out to Barney Frank, then the ranking Democrat on the committee and now its chairman, to secure support on the other side of the aisle. But after winning bipartisan support in the House, where the bill passed by 331 to 90 votes, the legislation lacked a champion in the Senate and faced hostility from the Bush administration.

    Adamant that the only solution to the problems posed by Fannie and Freddie was their privatisation, the White House attacked the bill. Mr Greenspan also weighed in, saying that the House legislation was worse than no bill at all.

    “We missed a golden opportunity that would have avoided a lot of the problems we’re facing now, if we hadn’t had such a firm ideological position at the White House and the Treasury and the Fed,” Mr Oxley says.

    When Hank Paulson joined the administration as Treasury secretary in 2006 he sent emissaries to Capitol Hill to explore the possibility of reaching a compromise, but to no avail."

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    That was in 2003 ... so where was the oversight? Republicans controlled the White House and both chambers of Congress from 2003 through 2006 ... where was the oversight? Why are Conservatives blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation that the majority party wouldn't even bring to the Senate floor for a full vote?

    Two seperate bills were dropped by Republican leadership in the Senate, S.190 and H.R.1461. Republicans controlled the House; Republicans controlled the Senate. S.190 passed in committee but never made it to the Senate floor; H.R.1461 passed in the House but it too never made it to the Senate floor ...

    ... Why are Conservatives blaming that on Chris Dodd and Barney Frank?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That was in 2003 ... so where was the oversight? Republicans controlled the White House and both chambers of Congress from 2003 through 2006 ... where was the oversight? Why are Conservatives blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation that the majority party wouldn't even bring to the Senate floor for a full vote?

    Two seperate bills were dropped by Republican leadership in the Senate, S.190 and H.R.1461. Republicans controlled the House; Republicans controlled the Senate. S.190 passed in committee but never made it to the Senate floor; H.R.1461 passed in the House but it too never made it to the Senate floor ...

    ... Why are Conservatives blaming that on Chris Dodd and Barney Frank?
    bsuh* had five years to put an end to the bubble, and he even had a compliant repub congress to implement it, but here's what he did

    USATODAY.com - Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post

    bsuh* had five years to put an end to the bubble, and he even had a compliant repub congress to implement it, but here's what he did

    USATODAY.com - Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership
    Hell, he could have written an executive order if he really wanted oversight and Congress wouldn't provide it.
    Listen to Conservatives and you'll hear them blame Democrats Chris Dodd and Barney Frank for not passing oversight and then blame Democrat Barack Obama for the economic conditions the resulting collapse has created. 'Vote Republican because Republicans never fail! If you see failure, there won't be a Democrat far enough removed Republicans can't blame.'

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