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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are so right, it was really much better paying 17.5% and higher for home mortgages, having a 20% misery index, and 10.8% unemployment in the 80's than having record low interest rates, 7.6% unemployment, and almost zero inflation in 2009. We were much worse off today than then.
    Yes indeed, it is better to pay 17% on a mortgage than it is to have your home foreclosed on, or to be unable to obtain a mortgage at any cost.

    In five years we can compare Regan's eight-year results to Obama's eight-year results. As you note, Reagan's two-year results weren't so hot.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't believe Al Gore would have done such a stupid thing as to attack a county that didn't attack us. Bush should have attacked Mexico as the logistics would have been much better.
    We can only hope that he didn't mean what he said

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes indeed, it is better to pay 17% on a mortgage than it is to have your home foreclosed on, or to be unable to obtain a mortgage at any cost.

    In five years we can compare Regan's eight-year results to Obama's eight-year results. As you note, Reagan's two-year results weren't so hot.
    You are absolutely correct, there were no foreclosures in the 80's recession.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are absolutely correct, there were no foreclosures in the 80's recession.
    Comparatively speaking, no.

    Of course there were some in Reagan's self-created S&L crisis.... Which led to Reagan's early 90s recession....
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Get your facts straight, there are two factors in debt - spending and revenue. Revenue was lost because of the Great Bush Recession.
    So according to the Obama Skool of Ekonomics, when revenue goes down, spending goes up exponentially and the subsequent downgrades are a signal that there should be even greater trillions spent because..... Well I'm actually not too sure about that last bit.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We can only hope that he didn't mean what he said

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    So uhmm you believe mankind is fully responsible for global warming now right?
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Bush GDP to spending ratio: 69.15%
    Obama GDP to spending ratio:92.47%

    Bush unemployment rate: 7.3%
    Obama unemployment rate: 9.1%
    That completely ignores the hand both of those presidents were dealt. Factor that in, and it paints an entirely different picture ...

    First of all, you mean debt/GDP ratio, not spending/GDP ratio. Secondly, you're attributing Bush's budget deficit of FY2009 to Obama. And thirdly ...

    Bush GDP to debt ratio: started at 56.09% and ended at 84.11% -- an increase of 50%

    Obama GDP to debt ratio: started at 84.11% and is currently at 105.23% -- an increase of 25%

    Bush's budgets create a 50% increase in debt as a percentage of GDP; Obama, a 35% increase ... Conservatives prefer Bush. Go figure?

    Bush unemployment rate: started at 4.2% and ended at 7.8% -- an increase of 86%
    Obama unemployment rate: started at 7.8% and is currently at 9.1% -- an increase of 17%

    Bush, 86% increase in unemployment; Obama, 17% increase ... Conservatives prefer Bush. Go figure?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I forgot that, just another reason to support him after all he shares that with other great advocates of peace Arafat and Jimmy Carter
    Yes, but of these three very special men Arafat was probably more clearly focused on his goals, as well as a better administrator, but both Carter and Obama had far toothier grins.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That completely ignores the hand both of those presidents were dealt. Factor that in, and it paints an entirely different picture ...

    First of all, you mean debt/GDP ratio, not spending/GDP ratio. Secondly, you're attributing Bush's budget deficit of FY2009 to Obama. And thirdly ...

    Bush GDP to debt ratio: started at 56.09% and ended at 84.11% -- an increase of 50%

    Obama GDP to debt ratio: started at 84.11% and is currently at 105.23% -- an increase of 25%

    Bush's budgets create a 50% increase in debt as a percentage of GDP; Obama, a 35% increase ... Conservatives prefer Bush. Go figure?

    Bush unemployment rate: started at 4.2% and ended at 7.8% -- an increase of 86%
    Obama unemployment rate: started at 7.8% and is currently at 9.1% -- an increase of 17%

    Bush, 86% increase in unemployment; Obama, 17% increase ... Conservatives prefer Bush. Go figure?
    Sheik, I know you will join me in helping get Bush out of the WH for it is a shame to see Obama get the blame for the following economic results

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

    I love the way you compare percentage change. Can I use that in my arguments in support of Obama? What the hell does it matter that there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans since the percentage change is better than Bush's? I further love how Obama was in office most of 2009 but the debt is all Bush's. I really want to be part of a group that can manipulate numbers like this. Thanks for inspiring me

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    you mean he cannot run again? Thought he was still in office now.
    Hey look, here's an article that says he's in office ...

    $400 billion deficit to greet Bush's successor - USATODAY.com

    I suppose using your logic that Obama's JAR is still 39% because outdated sources you post say so means Bush is still in office, eh?

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