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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I was in my 20s in the 80s. Democrats controlled both houses of Congress for most of Reagan's presidency, but he was able to get through most of his agenda. If he had faced an opposition party like Obama is facing he would have accomplished absolutely nothing that he wanted to do. You simply can't deny that with a straight face.
    Republicans controlled the Senate for Reagan's first 6 years in office.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I excect honesty. Regrettably, that's not what you deliver. What you fail to understand is that by constantly lying, you prove your position is not as sound as you believe it is.


    Well let's start with this one ... "4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years." That is a flat out lie since it a) dumps responsibility for the debt on Obama as of January 20th, 2009, which is absurd on its face; and b) ignores the portion of that increase to the debt which is directly attributable to George Bush, like his $1.2 trillion contribution to the FY2009 budget deficit. But g'head, keep lying. It only serves to undermine your own position.
    You are right, 4 trillion wasn't added to the debt in three years even though that is what the Treasury Dept shows. We all should believe Obama and his supporters vs. the checkbook of the United States. You see, Bush is responsible for everything that happened in 2001 whereas Obama isn't responsible for anything that happened even now 2 1/2 years later. I love being a liberal. These results are outstanding

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Different thread same old bull****. Do all taxpayers pay those tax increases that Reagan implemented? Do you know what FICA funds? Instead of looking at FICA as a tax increase, why aren't you looking at it as a retirement contribution. Are you going to draw SS when you turn 65? On the other hand the American taxpayer got an income tax reduction during the Reagan years and that benefited the taxpayer but drives liberals like you crazy. You want a bigger American Govt. whereas the majority don't. Amazing that Obama has a 39% approval rating with such incredible economic results or maybe his rating is justified

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
    One thing that sticks in my mind about Reagan, he was so worried that restaurant workers wouldn't pay taxes on their tips, he had put in the code that they would need to report a figure based upon the gross of the restaurant. Reagan was all about letting the rich off the hook and screwing the little guy or woman.


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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, 4 trillion wasn't added to the debt in three years even though that is what the Treasury Dept shows. We all should believe Obama and his supporters vs. the checkbook of the United States. You see, Bush is responsible for everything that happened in 2001 whereas Obama isn't responsible for anything that happened even now 2 1/2 years later. I love being a liberal. These results are outstanding

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
    Would you advise some one when buying a used car to look under the hood to see what kind of problems they are inheriting?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Here are some gems from Reagan's first OMB director, David Stockman:

    "Republicans used to believe that prosperity depended upon the regular balancing of accounts — in government, in international trade, on the ledgers of central banks and in the financial affairs of private households and businesses, too. But the new catechism, as practiced by Republican policymakers for decades now, has amounted to little more than money printing and deficit finance — vulgar Keynesianism robed in the ideological vestments of the prosperous classes."

    Mr. Stockman took care to lay blame at the foot of the man he described in the Lloyd Grove interview as an “evil genius” – Milton Friedman – who convinced President Nixon in 1971 to “to unleash on the world paper dollars no longer redeemable in gold or other fixed monetary reserves.”

    Despite the fact that tax cuts are considered by many as the ultimate panacea for all of America’s economic problems, David Stockman set the record straight about how the religion of taxcut-ology began:

    "Through the 1984 election, the old guard earnestly tried to control the deficit, rolling back about 40 percent of the original Reagan tax cuts. But when, in the following years, the Federal Reserve chairman, Paul Volcker, finally crushed inflation, enabling a solid economic rebound, the new tax-cutters not only claimed victory for their supply-side strategy but hooked Republicans for good on the delusion that the economy will outgrow the deficit if plied with enough tax cuts.

    By fiscal year 2009, the tax-cutters had reduced federal revenues to 15 percent of gross domestic product, lower than they had been since the 1940s."

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So you are not going to actually address what I posted are you?
    Rightwingers never do. That's how I know that even they know that they're wrong. They just want to "win" an internet debate. They are addicted to "winning"

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You are right, 4 trillion wasn't added to the debt in three years even though that is what the Treasury Dept shows.
    Seriously, Con, can you debate without lying?

    I never said the debt didn't increase $4 trillion in 3 years. For you to infer that I did say that is nothing short of lying.

    What I did say, which you lied in regurgitating with the hope you could somehow deflect from reality, is that Obama is not responsible for all $4 trillion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I love being a liberal. These results are outstanding
    Well you seem to love the 12 million additional underemployed under Bush. Does that make you a Liberal?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
    Fitch Ratings backs US ‘AAA’ credit rating

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...it-rating.html


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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Would you advise some one when buying a used car to look under the hood to see what kind of problems they are inheriting?
    No because that isn't the responsibility of a sitting Senator to know what is going on in the economy. Obama cannot be held responsible for the Congressional activities while he was in office. After all he was too busy working on his next job while collecting a paycheck for his job as Senator. I think we all should vote for Obama for another four years of these kind of economic results.

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Seriously, Con, can you debate without lying?

    I never said the debt didn't increase $4 trillion in 3 years. For you to infer that I did say that is nothing short of lying.

    What I did say, which you lied in regurgitating with the hope you could somehow deflect from reality, is that Obama is not responsible for all $4 trillion.



    Well you seem to love the 12 million additional underemployed under Bush. Does that make you a Liberal?
    Totally agree, the additional unemployed under Bush were so great that Obama did the right thing and increased them. Since you accuse me of lying so much I guess that does make me a liberal.

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