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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    You asked for the proposal from the House and the Senate, I provided both. Status of the bill is as follows:

    Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.1745 - All Congressional Actions - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
    Right, it was referred to committee in the House and the Senate. Last action in the Republican-led House was in May. Jobs jobs jobs

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Right, it was referred to committee in the House and the Senate. Last action in the Republican-led House was in May. Jobs jobs jobs
    Ok, first of all what does this have to do with the Obama approval rating dropping? I will respond to your question however this time but all you are doing is diverting because you have no answer for the Obama record other than to say it is better than what he inherited but as shown that isn't totally true, unemployment higher, employment lower, labor force declining, misery index higher, debt higher showing total incompetence.

    The bill went to committee in May. GOP took over the House in January 2011 and found no budget so they proposed a couple budgets and then had the debt ceiling debate which of course you have already forgotten trying to make this an issue of a jobs bill dying in committee, which isn't the case. "Your" President has had over two years with total Democrat control of Congress and didn't present a jobs bill but now the GOP takes over one House of Congress and a bill was created in May 2011, 4 months after taking control. Where is the Obama focus on Jobs because it isn't showing up in the record.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Ok, first of all what does this have to do with the Obama approval rating dropping? I will respond to your question however this time but all you are doing is diverting because you have no answer for the Obama record other than to say it is better than what he inherited but as shown that isn't totally true, unemployment higher, employment lower, labor force declining, misery index higher, debt higher showing total incompetence.

    The bill went to committee in May. GOP took over the House in January 2011 and found no budget so they proposed a couple budgets and then had the debt ceiling debate which of course you have already forgotten trying to make this an issue of a jobs bill dying in committee, which isn't the case. "Your" President has had over two years with total Democrat control of Congress and didn't present a jobs bill but now the GOP takes over one House of Congress and a bill was created in May 2011, 4 months after taking control. Where is the Obama focus on Jobs because it isn't showing up in the record.
    You posted a link to the bill and you're asking ME how it's relevant?

    My bad, I should have figured that the republicans were too busy tanking the stock market to bother with a jobs bill (which actually wouldn't create a single job, so I'm not sure how you figure it's a jobs bill anyway).

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You posted a link to the bill and you're asking ME how it's relevant?

    My bad, I should have figured that the republicans were too busy tanking the stock market to bother with a jobs bill (which actually wouldn't create a single job, so I'm not sure how you figure it's a jobs bill anyway).
    You are absolutely right, I answered Winston's post and you jumped in and I made the mistake of responding to you. That won't happen again, the thread topic is the Obama approval rating and you want to run from the record that generated that JAR, don't blame you. Good luck running on the GOP obstruction and GW Bush. Obama has a record that didn't just appear.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Very simple, it puts fiscal responsibility back into the govt. and when the budget is balanced that means less debt service or money borrowed which makes more money available to businesses and lower interest rates to consumers thus creating more economic growth. You really don't understand fiscal responsibility, do you?
    I don't understand why the greatest nation on the face of the earth would want to constitutionally limit how much debt it could have. Remember debt is a function of both spending and revenue. Also, the House can Constitutionally appropriate money outside of the budget - this is what Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan. This is just smoke and mirrors by the Gee Oh Pee to American people they are worried about the debt - which they are not.

    There have been only 27 Amendments to the Constitution and I doubt that 38 states (even the red ones) would approve this.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't understand why the greatest nation on the face of the earth would want to constitutionally limit how much debt it could have. Remember debt is a function of both spending and revenue. Also, the House can Constitutionally appropriate money outside of the budget - this is what Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan. This is just smoke and mirrors by the Gee Oh Pee to American people they are worried about the debt - which they are not.

    There have been only 27 Amendments to the Constitution and I doubt that 38 states (even the red ones) would approve this.
    Republicans go on about how government should be run like a business, but no business would prohibit itself from borrowing in this fashion. It would be suicidal.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't understand why the greatest nation on the face of the earth would want to constitutionally limit how much debt it could have. Remember debt is a function of both spending and revenue. Also, the House can Constitutionally appropriate money outside of the budget - this is what Bush did with Iraq and Afghanistan. This is just smoke and mirrors by the Gee Oh Pee to American people they are worried about the debt - which they are not.

    There have been only 27 Amendments to the Constitution and I doubt that 38 states (even the red ones) would approve this.
    I don't understand how the greatest nation on the face of the earth could generate a 14.6 trillion dollar debt either. Debt normally is the function of spending and revenue but this debt is the total affect of social engineering and the govt. getting involved in personal responsibility issues. It isn't surprising that many Americans aren't worried about the debt as they don't pay any Federal Income taxes that fund that debt. It is time to revise the tax code and have everyone paying something. Obama has a 38% JAR for a reason and fiscal irresponsibility is part of that reason.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Republicans go on about how government should be run like a business, but no business would prohibit itself from borrowing in this fashion. It would be suicidal.
    No business can print its own money nor would it be able to run up a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Govt. irresponsibility has run up this debt and you support that waste.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    No business can print its own money nor would it be able to run up a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Govt. irresponsibility has run up this debt and you support that waste.
    It is not at all uncommon for businesses to run in the red from time to time. Most large business generate losses for years before they become profitable. If businesses couldn't run in the red we wouldn't have many businesses.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It is not at all uncommon for businesses to run in the red from time to time. Most large business generate losses for years before they become profitable. If businesses couldn't run in the red we wouldn't have many businesses.
    This country didn't create the 14.6 billion dollar debt in a few months or a few years. No business could do what this govt. has done and as long as politicians can buy votes to keep their jobs they are going to spend, spend, spend. Almost every state has a balanced budget requirement, why not the Federal Govt? Most social issues are the responsibility of the states not the Federal govt. but without the Federal Govt. taking that responsibility many politicians wouldn't have a job today

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