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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    To establish a commission to develop legislation designed to reform tax policy and entitlement benefit programs and ensure a sound fiscal future for the United States, and for other purposes.


    What would that have done to possibly prevent the housing and credit meltdowns?
    Nothing

    To prevent the housing and credit meltdown actions would have had to been taken in 2004 at the latest. A recession would have been the result, but of a far less magnitude then what is occuring now. By 2007 the die was cast and the collapse inevitable. Housing prices reached their max in early 2007 on average, the decline in which was the cause of the currency crisis
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    How do you know that some of the tax dollars returned to TX didn't come from TX. You seem to know how to count saved jobs so apparently you can prove that TX taxpayer money didn't come back to TX
    I thought he was giving credit where credit is due, to the one term Marxist president Obama's 56 other states, not counting Alaska and Hawaii.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Nothing

    To prevent the housing and credit meltdown actions would have had to been taken in 2004 at the latest. A recession would have been the result, but of a far less magnitude then what is occuring now. By 2007 the die was cast and the collapse inevitable. Housing prices reached their max in early 2007 on average, the decline in which was the cause of the currency crisis
    The government could have stopped Goldman Sachs from spreading the bad loans they were holding onto a myriad of others.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I think every member of Congress who was around then and still around should be fired. They failed in epic proportions. Be it a (D) or a (R). It wll be one of the leading major chapters in Bush's legacy.

    O.K. there were a small handful trying to get something done. I hate to condemn the innocent with the guilty but their numbers are few.
    I still don't see how one can honestly blame Demcorats, who were in control for 11 months before the recession started, when Republicans were in charge for all those years while the damage was acruing. I don't see how anyone can even honestly blame both sides equally. Republicans did nothing for 4 years. I put far more blame on them than I do Democrats. It's kind of like losing a football game 21-0 and then blaming the backup quarterback who stepped in with 11 minutes left in the game because, like the starting quarterback for 49 minutes, he failed to put up any points on the scoreboard.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I still don't see how one can honestly blame Demcorats, who were in control for 11 months before the recession started, when Republicans were in charge for all those years while the damage was acruing.
    Blame them? No, of course not. Blame all of them (or as I note above, nearly all of them), yes we can. (R's and D's)

    I don't see how anyone can even honestly blame both sides equally. Republicans did nothing for 4 years. I put far more blame on them than I do Democrats. It's kind of like losing a football game 21-0 and then blaming the backup quarterback who stepped in with 11 minutes left in the game because, like the starting quarterback for 49 minutes, he failed to put up any points on the scoreboard.
    WHat exactly do we have to gain by trying to meter the blame? 30-70? 40-60? 50-50? What does that accomplish? They ALL (or nearly all) ****ed us royally. Both sides. That's the bottom line.

    {EDIT} My bad for almost letting you get away with the 4 years statement. This problem started well before then.
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    Therefore the people always have the final say. Always.
    Again, if a revolution is successful, there is no Constitution to decide matters on.

    Only the U.S. Supreme Court can decide on what is and what is not Constitutional.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    To establish a commission to develop legislation designed to reform tax policy and entitlement benefit programs and ensure a sound fiscal future for the United States, and for other purposes.


    What would that have done to possibly prevent the housing and credit meltdowns?
    Get the government out of it. The the Justice Department working in concert with ACORN and other community organizing thugs coerced banks into giving loans to people who could not repay them.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post

    Our problems today are far bigger than that. Now what you were asking was what didn't they do that could have helped with the recession today. THe huge deficits, the unfunded liabilities, etc are all weighing heavily on the economy and causing a major drag. It's not just housing/banking.
    I'm talking about what led to the Great Recession which began in December, 2007.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I'm talking about what led to the Great Recession which began in December, 2007.
    It all did. Everything. Good intentions that were bound to turn bad. Lax oversite. Spending money we didn't have. Spending money we did have but wasn't suppose to spend. All of it has lead to where we are.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post

    Blame them? No, of course not. Blame all of them (or as I note above, nearly all of them), yes we can. (R's and D's)



    WHat exactly do we have to gain by trying to meter the blame? 30-70? 40-60? 50-50? What does that accomplish? They ALL (or nearly all) ****ed us royally. Both sides. That's the bottom line.

    {EDIT} My bad for almost letting you get away with the 4 years statement. This problem started well before then.
    I don't agree. I don't hold the minority party to the same level of accountability as the majority party. Like Uncle Ben told his nephew Peter, "With great power comes great responsibility."

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