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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Then prove that Obama saved any jobs, where is the site that reports saved jobs and specifically counts them. All Opinions. BLS doesn't report saved jobs only lost jobs, the labor force, and employment.

    Adam is right on this issue,
    As explained countless times, jobs saved can only be estimated. A good indication is the rapidly rising unemployment we're seeing now in state and local governments as stimulus funds run out.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    No, as usual the rote recitation is only half the equation.

    Cute, now pay attention to the results. Rainman won a lot of money in Vegas. Too bad many are still brainwashed by the Obama rhetoric.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Jobs saved that are now falling by the wayside as a result of waning stimulus funds:

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    "NEW YORK (Joan Gralla) - Around 450,000 people who work for U.S. states, counties, cities, towns and villages could get pink slips in fiscal 2012, sharply up from the 300,000 positions shed this year, a report said on Monday.

    The number of job cuts will rise mainly because the federal stimulus program is ending while the cost of Medicaid is "spiraling," said the report by UBS Investment Research.

    States got billions of extra dollars primarily for education and Medicaid from the stimulus plan. Medicaid is the state-federal health plan for the poor and disabled.

    Maury Harris, a UBS economist, on a conference call said the deficits states and municipalities will have to close will climb to $155 billion in fiscal 2012 from about $108 billion in the current fiscal year.

    Most states and municipalities begin new fiscal years on July 1.

    The deep cuts state and local governments will have to make to balance their books in the next fiscal year should clip about one percentage point from the U.S. gross domestic product -- about 30 basis points more than in the current fiscal year, the report said. "The public sector is holding back growth but it doesn't derail it altogether," Harris said."

    State, Local Governments Could Layoff 450,000 Workers Next Year, Report Says

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Jobs saved that are now falling by the wayside as a result of waning stimulus funds:

    Reuters--

    "NEW YORK (Joan Gralla) - Around 450,000 people who work for U.S. states, counties, cities, towns and villages could get pink slips in fiscal 2012, sharply up from the 300,000 positions shed this year, a report said on Monday.

    The number of job cuts will rise mainly because the federal stimulus program is ending while the cost of Medicaid is "spiraling," said the report by UBS Investment Research.

    States got billions of extra dollars primarily for education and Medicaid from the stimulus plan. Medicaid is the state-federal health plan for the poor and disabled.

    Maury Harris, a UBS economist, on a conference call said the deficits states and municipalities will have to close will climb to $155 billion in fiscal 2012 from about $108 billion in the current fiscal year.

    Most states and municipalities begin new fiscal years on July 1.

    The deep cuts state and local governments will have to make to balance their books in the next fiscal year should clip about one percentage point from the U.S. gross domestic product -- about 30 basis points more than in the current fiscal year, the report said. "The public sector is holding back growth but it doesn't derail it altogether," Harris said."

    State, Local Governments Could Layoff 450,000 Workers Next Year, Report Says
    You don't seem to get it, that is a state responsibility, not a Federal Responsibility. States weren't forced to make tough choices, they were offered money and took it. there is no proof that those people were going to get pink slips, could is not a guarantee. It is not the Federal Government's role to make up state shortfalls but Obama bailed out his base, the unions.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Then prove that Obama saved any jobs, where is the site that reports saved jobs and specifically counts them. All Opinions. BLS doesn't report saved jobs only lost jobs, the labor force, and employment.
    When someone suffering from ODS says something positive about Obama, especially when they don't realize what they're saying, it's evidence enough for me.

    Without understanding what you were saying, you said the results of Obama's stimulus cost us $228,000 per job, i.e., 3 million jobs saved or created.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    When someone suffering from ODS says something positive about Obama, especially when they don't realize what they're saying, it's evidence enough for me.

    Without understanding what you were saying, you said the results of Obama's stimulus cost us $228,000 per job, i.e., 3 million jobs saved or created.
    "let me be perfectly clear"
    Obamanomics is a complete and total failure.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    You don't seem to get it, that is a state responsibility, not a Federal Responsibility. States weren't forced to make tough choices, they were offered money and took it. there is no proof that those people were going to get pink slips, could is not a guarantee. It is not the Federal Government's role to make up state shortfalls but Obama bailed out his base, the unions.
    Not true at all. The federal government often steps up when problems are too big for states to handle. Like when FEMA provided aid to Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina because the state couldn't handle the enormity of the situation.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Obamanomics is a complete and total failure.
    Ok, you're on record as preferring -9% GDP and losing 700,000 jobs in a month, like we saw under Bush as he handed Obama the wheel to the U.S.S. Titanic.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    You don't seem to get it, that is a state responsibility, not a Federal Responsibility.
    Stop trying to change the subject. The question isn't whose responsibility it is, but rather, how many jobs were saved by the stimulus.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, you're on record as preferring -9% GDP and losing 700,000 jobs in a month, like we saw under Bush as he handed Obama the wheel to the U.S.S. Titanic.
    Thats true Sheik...it was all going down during bushs watch and his tax cuts failed...but lets be honest, if obama hasnt made it worse, he sure hasnt made it any better and all his bailouts were just as much a failure as the bush tax cuts.

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