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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Check the date of the article.

    Okay, now you prove that employment wouldn't have been any different without the stimulus.
    Cannot be done, only opinions. Just so you know that I can give you credit, this is the most accurate statement you have ever made,

    It's impossible to say with precision. You have to rely on self reporting by the states and estimates by economists
    That says it all and my point all along. Now you agree with me.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly do you call this?



    that is why saved jobs is nothing more than a pipe dream and designed to make Obama look better than he is. The actual numbers show exactly how bad he is. 3 million fewer people employed today than when he took office.
    It's no pipe dream. If you don't think that pumping close to a trillion dollars into the economy created and saved jobs then you are simply ignorant of basic economics.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Cannot be done, only opinions. Just so you know that I can give you credit, this is the most accurate statement you have ever made,
    As I said two pages back, "neither one of us can prove our cases. We just have to rely on the experts and common sense."

    Now you agree with me.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's no pipe dream. If you don't think that pumping close to a trillion dollars into the economy created and saved jobs then you are simply ignorant of basic economics.
    It wasn't pumped into the economy. the only thing pumped into the economy was the rebate checks Obama gave everyone under a certain income. Everything else was bailing out unions, spending money to shore up his base. You don't seem to have a clue as to what the stimulus did and the results show it didn't do much if anything thus was a failure.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It wasn't pumped into the economy. the only thing pumped into the economy was the rebate checks Obama gave everyone under a certain income. Everything else was bailing out unions, spending money to shore up his base. You don't seem to have a clue as to what the stimulus did and the results show it didn't do much if anything thus was a failure.
    Patently false. Try again.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As I said two pages back, "neither one of us can prove our cases. We just have to rely on the experts and common sense."

    Now you agree with me.
    I can prove that there are fewer people in the labor force, fewer people employed, more unemployed than when Obama took office. You cannot prove that Obama saved or created 3.5 million jobs. That is opinion only. Wonder if you would buy a Republican claiming jobs saved?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics is responsible for reporting employment and unemployment. I have posted the data from that site and given you the link.
    I find it hard to accept you are stupid enough to believe that the BLS numbers you post bear any indication on how many jobs Obama's Stimulus saved or created.

    Your argument is like saying if you earn $1000 in a day but lost $3000 playing Texas Hold'em, because you you're down $2000 for the day, you didn't earn $1000.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Patently false. Try again.
    The results say it all

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I find it hard to accept you are stupid enough to believe that the BLS numbers you post bear any indication on how many jobs Obama's Stimulus saved or created.

    Your argument is like saying if you earn $1000 in a day but lost $3000 playing Texas Hold'em, because you you're down $2000 for the day, you didn't earn $1000.
    Then prove that Obama saved any jobs, where is the site that reports saved jobs and specifically counts them. All Opinions. BLS doesn't report saved jobs only lost jobs, the labor force, and employment.

    Adam is right on this issue,
    It's impossible to say with precision. You have to rely on self reporting by the states and estimates by economists

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The results say it all

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.
    No, as usual the rote recitation is only half the equation.


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